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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Nintendo emailed me today saying something like they changed their EULA and if I didn’t do anything then it counts as accepting the new EULA unless I close my account. Haven’t had a switch in years, didn’t even like it and gave it away. Anyway I closed my Nintendo account immediately.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Oh, you thought you owned that thing you bought? No. This is 2025. You own nothing. It doesn’t matter how much money you gave them. Yeah, gave them. Because you didn’t buy that stuff. You’re just borrowing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Well I also reserve the right to not buy their underpowered shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Cool! Time to go to the sea for more nintendo stuff! Good think you cant brick a device you dont have control over 😘

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

I’ve recently decided to complete all the games we’ve bought on our family Switch before allowing myself to get a Steam Deck alongside my Ps5.

While Nintendo has some very good games, I think I’ll never buy again from them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

That corporation is still stuck in 1985 or 1989 (otherwise stuck in the Showa Era), trying to keep absolute control of anything it made.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago

Pretty sure that's illegal in most parts of Europe. Checking the article it says that the policy has only been updated in the UK and the US.

Sucks to be a country without adequate consumer protection, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago

They can "reserve the right" all they want, that's illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I'd love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago

I'd like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that "permanently unusable in whole or in part" includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it's the user's fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.

But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don't like. That is absolutely dystopian.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn't available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.

After(poorly) doing it, I wasn't able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.

So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.

Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won't allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.

They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Similar here. Bricked my kids switch, so we modded it. Now we have ALL the games.

[–] JackbyDev 1 points 1 hour ago

How'd you mod it after you bricked it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Next time just use a Switch emulator. Sudachi is a good one.

You can even download Fitgirl Repacks of Switch titles that include the emulator already set up and ready to go. Literally just a one click install and you're playing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Fitgirl Repacks my beloved

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

This was before emulators were a thing. It was super early days of modding.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too "secure" or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.

Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You'll find duct tape on all the latches.

Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You're going to find post-its under keyboards.

Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.

Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They'll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.

Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.

When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.

Meet your customers where they're at!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Basically what Gabe said.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The most secure device ever made is a Rock.

You cannot have your bank account stolen from a Rock. People will never get your personal files or medical info from a Rock. People will never spy on you through the Rock.

But you also can’t do much with a Rock.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree on the premise that a rock cannot be used for much. I mean, the available actions for a rock ARE pretty limited, but it can be used in a variety of ways!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Good in a revolution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Xbox let you change your console's region in the settings?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

i have an account on my ps4 (and ps5) that i log into and suddenly i'm in a different region. the ps5 says i only get so many region changes, but i can log into the accounts as many times as i want

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago

i mean if i had a specific nintendo console for pirated games, i wouldn't connect it to the internet

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago

Fuck tinendo.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago

I'm gonna pirate some Nintendo games just out of spite, really.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago

I've been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I'm not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

At this point I'm surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Don't give them any ideas

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

i can't wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn't seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

With the price of software it will be interesting to see how it goes. I think they jumped the gun a bit hard on that one and will have to backpedal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

i kind of want the steam deck to eat the switch and i really don't have a dog in the fight

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

A steam deck lite would probably dominate, lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

It's a nice thought, at least.

[–] [email protected] 147 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah. So now we're merely 'licensing' physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Always has been unless you count modding to remove this kind of shitty DRM.

Nintendo was the company to popularize DRM in home consoles with the US release of the NES. The Famicom had no DRM even though it was identical hardware otherwise (well, that, the RF modulator, and the PCB layout.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Afaik not in Europe. But the details are probably messy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 22 hours ago

or alternatively communicated: “You will own nothing and you will be happy”

[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 28 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Can’t wait for Yuzu 2 to come out.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet/run updates in order to dump their games or play pirated copies or whatever they wanna do! That'll stop them!

/s

Edit:

This seems to be more about their online account services and their updated privacy policy than anything else, but I still think my point stands, just not for this article.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago

Well that's some fucking bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, first they get shady patents and now this. They're really on a roll for being a pretty unethical company.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They're the Disney of gaming, really.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

So true. And what’s sad is that so many people love these two companies😨

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Wait, it doesn't appear to be the same within the EU.

Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.

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