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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/372863

cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[–] [email protected] 181 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

It's a good start but we gotta pump those numbers up.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago

The rest are bots and Russian troll farms.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

remember 80% of instagram is bots according to a study reported by german media.

so X id even say it could be more giving the vast hatred increase and content change over the last years. so basically they lost 90%

EDIT/additional bit: funk's german post referenced this Imperva Bad Bot Report 2024

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 weeks ago

It's not just X; American social media has been gradually turning into such a shit show for the last 10 years: censorship, misinformation, consensus manufacture and creeping enshitification. I jumped ship to the fediverse and never looked back!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Let me guess, they're moving to Bluesky?

[–] Sl00k 19 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I tried moving to Mastadon first a few years ago and it was a pretty shit experience, Bluesky however has stuck in my app rotation pretty well.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's were the marketing dollars are

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Or meta because its better? Like getting run over by a small car instead of a bus.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ewww people actually use Threads? Last time I saw it, it was like LinkedIn 2.0 filled with sigma grindset "chase that bag" crap.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Threads sucks compared to bsky don't know what you're talking about there. Bluesky has way more features and posting quality.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago

It is humanities responsibility to make the rest of this man’s life miserable

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

What's the quality like of the people who are still on Twitter in 2025? Does the fediverse want them? (These are real questions, I have no idea if there's still any decent people on Twitter.)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

There likely are (I quit Twitter over a year ago), just because it does unique coverage on many topics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Every massive influx from Twitter has brought a deluge of people I want nothing to do with in any way shape or form, and a small sprinkling of cool ones. Fortunately like 4/5ths of the crappy ones leave again, but that other 1/5th is a big number when you're talking an influx of hundreds of thousands.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't go to BlueSky !!! They're not better than X. They obey to the same leaders... MONEY, GREED, AND POWER. A few weeks ago they restricted 72 Turkish protesters the access to their BlueSky accounts on simple request of the Turkish Government. So, BlueSky cannot be trusted they will secure the accounts of their customers. If Trump would ask BlueSky to block all accounts of members who are against him, they'll do it right away.

https://www.turkishminute.com/2025/04/17/bluesky-restrict-access-72-account-turk-amid-government-pressure7/

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Make mastodon more accessible then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which accessibility standards does Mastodon break?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Oh boy, where do I even begin:

  1. Federation. People have no idea what it is, which means that they have to familiarize themselves with all these technical concepts just to create an account.

  2. Servers. Most mastodon servers are locked, and you have to petition the admins to let you in, which often implies waiting more than a day. In other sites, you can create an account in 5 seconds, so mastodon is at a disadvantage.

  3. Lack of an algorithm. This implies people won't see the content they like, which means they have to go and actively look for content. Most people don't want to spend time doing that, they just want to log in, laugh at funny memes ans look at pretty pictures.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

3 is a feature to me. The "algorithms" seem to create bubbles, and I want to decide myself.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

and bluesky doesn’t have a default algorithm either, but allows you to subscribe to algorithms created by other people

being able to choose how the information is presented is the way

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

BlueSky may not be ideal, but anything is better than X.

X is just a machine for turning billionaire cash into political domination.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

bluesky is just early twitter, and it wont stay that way for long. they've already removed people from there that the Turkish govt doesn't like and there is nothing at all stopping some billionaire like musk from swooping in and buying it all up.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

They're all going to bluesky because for some reason as soon as social media gets involved, the wonderful human ability to pattern match just gets switched off.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

For most people it's unfortunately just "is it like Twitter" - both in terms of accessibility and algorithmic content suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think a sad part of this is due to people wanting that vapid dopamagic response the algorithm provides.

Is it bad for us? Yes.

But addicts are going to addict 🫤

I know lots of people who made a fediverse account easy enough, but just end up back on the algorithm platforms as there's no effort required for discovery.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Except for the fact that most people dont like jumping through multiple hoops to register an account / need to do research beforehand to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago

Fedi is doing fine whether or not Nazi platforms crumble.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Abandon anything this Nazi touches.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I forgot that people are still using Twitter. WTF!?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Small chances for now, but let's keep growing small communities here. People need to get tired of Instagram and centralized algorithms to switch to fediverse

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just a reminder that politico is owned by the Axel Springer group which is a real force of bad for Germany and Europe. Their media campaigns often try to push the public opinion in a right wing conservative direction.

Their biggest shareholder (35%) is KKR (an American global private-equity and investment company) that use the might of the media group to sway the public opinion against climate friendly actions/policies.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Might have to also let people know the Fediverse exists?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

A lot of our biggest communities still have like two mods taking care of everything and are prone to cherry picking. It‘s the same old forum structures where the internet bubble effect is just as strong if not stronger than on larger, already problematic platforms. Some of the things I‘ve seen and experienced lately bring back memories from those internet forum days. Good ones but also the worst ones. And I have to admit it makes me doubt the Fediverse is actually scalable. There‘s just a lack of accountability in the end.

Which is not to say a federalized platform isn‘t an alternative to giant corporations. Those have their own problems and fair share of fuck ups. But I think I‘m already starting to see the limits of the Fediverse. At least in it‘s current stage.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

The fediverse is much more than just lemmy. That being said i also disagree for lemmy. Drama between mods and communities was a regular thing on reddit. Still reddit managed to grow quite big before the bots took over. And companies are in no way more accountable to the users. Look at what happened with twitter under Musk. The only realistic choice you have as a normal user is to leave. And in the fediverse leaving a shitty instance still allows you to connect with all the other content from a different instance.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The fediverse is about options. If you don't like how someone else runs their platform or community you can create your own. It's awesome because you don't get locked into one platform. And in the future I think we will see more big companies and organisations running their own stuff. But I agree that at the moment it is not what "normal people" are looking for and it will take quite some time until it develops. But to be fair the same was the case for reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Biggest problem with twitter/X is so many companies mess you around until you call them out on it, then things tend to get resolved how they should have been.

I truthfully have always seen that as Twitter/X's only use

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, Mastodon is German, so they're probably moving here. The federated fork of Dorsey's Twitter is second.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

BlueSky is not federated. Also German users have outsized representation on Mastodon but most of the network is outside Germany.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

There is always that one comment saying "b-but its technically kinda federated". It doesnt fucking matter if its federated if 99.999% of all users are on one instance. The entire concept of a long lived, enshittification resistant fediverse relies entirely on being decentralized with a reasonably evenly distributed userbase. You fucking bet lemmy would already be completely worthless right now if people hadnt stopped lemmy.world from grabbing more communities and users.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Those are rookie numbers, euros, get on that shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Couldn’t happen to a nicer piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

remember 80% of instagram is bots according to a study reported by german media.

so X id even say it could be more giving the vast hatred increase and content change over the last years. so basically they lost 90%%

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