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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

you can trucate it and it still only a slightly worse approximation:

987/123 = 8.024

98/12 = 8.167

9/1 = 9.000

The last one is pretty bad you should probably not use it

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

9/1 is approximately 8, for extremely large values of 8.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Hello, fellow old nerd.

[–] JackbyDev 31 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

For that last one, how bad are we talking? I need to know soon, I have some important banking software I need to develop.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't use it for precise calculations at NASA, but for banking stuff I think it would be fine :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

It depends on the scale of the thing you're using it for.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Have you considered running for Indiana governor? You have the right mindset.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nah, the engineer probably designed it with a safety factor. You could probably even go 9/0 and be perfectly safe ;)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

By the way guys, a very similar approximation for 8, which also starts at 9.000 for n=1, but quickly gets much closer to 8 for increasing n, is:

exp{-2(n-1)} + 8

It approaches 8 about as fast as the above method but this one has a simple formula that is usable in python etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

16/2 is an almost exact replacement for 8. OP's name includes Fermat, and so he's probably smarter than me though.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Shit like this makes me realise why people become mathematicians. You just play around with numbers and find funny facts about them.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

So, years ago in college in Linear Algebra our professor said to us to study about idempotent matrices. So I checked out that wiki page and saw the example for 2x2 matrix, that are composed by the numbers 3, -6, 1 and -2. And I was like wait a second, 3×-2=-6 there's no way they are not relationship there, so I started trying other numbers, and found and proved (using induction) that any n, -n(n-1), 1, -(n-1) is an idempotent matrix. At the test there were no questions about that, and I was short of 0.5 poits to pass the class without having to present a final exam and I told my professor that I spent a lot of time learning that and that even discovered something and proved he pass me the chart and asked me to proved it, after that he gave the missing points. Was really good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You need to put the name inside the brackets and the link inside the parentheses.

idempotent matrices

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I myself once learned 380 digits of π, when I was a crazy high-school kid. My never-attained ambition was to reach the spot, 762 digits out in the decimal expansion, where it goes "999999", so that I could recite it out loud, come to those six 9s, and then impishly say, "and so on!"

—Douglas Hofstadter

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That would be an amazing party trick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Actually come to think of it, even more amazing in the age of smart phones, when it's possible to easily verify to numbers you're reciting.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Then you try to figure out why they do be like that

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (7 children)

gonna need this in every base

I'll start with base 2:

1/1 = 1

[–] mattd 16 points 5 days ago

Base 3:

21 / 12 = 1.1012101210121012

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

gonna need this in every base

...all of them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

for great justice

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

I'm gonna need a formal proof for this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

We should be friends

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

987654312÷123456789

Change the 21 at the end of the first number to 12 and its perfect. It was only ever 9 away.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Witch! Begone foul demon, and take your dark sorcery with you!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just noticed what the numbers are. It really is easy to memorize. So convenient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, it requires remembering 8, so it kinda defeats the purpose.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

The funniest part is that some people will never understand the absolute crusade that some mathematicians might fight over this one day

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You may call it an approxim8ion

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

gr8 m8, I r8 8/8

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

9876543210987654321 / 1234567890123456789 = 8,0000000729000

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I wonder if there’s a related infinite sequence which converges on 8?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This sequence approximates an integer to arbitrary precision, not 8 specifically though, and never perfectly.

I tried it out using other bases, and the rule seems to be that doing this in base n results in n-2 with remainder n-1. So it doesn't ever actually converge, but the remainder becomes small very fast.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

never perfectly

eyes you in binary

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The sequence in base 2 is only 1/1.

Wonder how close base-16 gets.

FEDCBA987654321 / 123456789ABCDEF

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Off by '1.82959E–16' !

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

(n * 8 + 1) / n

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It contains the number 8 though. So how is that useful

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Well, simple. Jest substitute that 8 with the above approximation.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

See my other comment, it's no coincide– there's a pattern. I would love to see an actual proof for it though, I don't know enough to say why it behaves that way.

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