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McSorleys in NYC was men only until a 1970 legal ruling, and didn't have a women's restroom until 1986.
Their motto prior to 1970 was "Good Ale, Raw Onions and No Ladies"
Nothing more manly than being surrounded by dudes and raw onions while getting drunk because you’re too much of a wuss to go to therapy or even address emotional trauma yourself.
I also like how they had a gender neutral bathroom.
We live closer in time to the first T-Rex than the first T-Rex does to the last Stegosuraus
No way T-Rex did high fives
Due to its tiny arms and non-pentadigit hands the T-Rex would commonly high five with its teeth. This lead to the T-Rex being unfortunately labeld a carnivore.
They were just threes
And not so high; more close.
Close 3s, we can be assured, we're quite popular until the event.
Maybe that’s why the Pachycephalosaurus had thick skulls and kept head butting each other, they were just trying to close 5 but their heads kept getting in the way (apparently these actually had 5 fingers)
For some of the kids here: SPAM of the mail variety was not a thing before 1995.
Back before the 1970's if a woman was travelling she'd have her husband or a porter carry her bags. With the rise of women travelling alone there was suddenly a market for wheeled bags. Men didn't want them because they made men look too weak to carry their own luggage.
Fellas is it weak to not carry your 50lb suitcase everywhere? Definitionally yes but oh my god how fragile.
Fist bumps, obviously.
Dapping. Its called dapping. To dap someone in greeting.
It’s 2025 and my invention idea from the 1980’s, the glow in the dark toilet seat, still hasn’t taken off. Makes me want to quit inventing.
Makes me want start pooping.
Almost no "traditional" recipes are older than 150 years.
Edit: i meant meals, not basic fare.
You: “Almost no”
Comments: pff look, some example!
Reading comprehension is in the dirt.
Traditional food : bread
Show me a single loaf that is older than 150 years
I'm waiting
Let me get nananana's old sourdough starter
Porridge has been around since roman times.
Is it comparable to today's oatmeal? Is porridge a separate food from oatmeal?
Oatmeal is a type of porridge, but you can make it from a lot of grains
Fun fact: boomers entered the workforce before credit scores existed. Credit scores were created in 1989, but people treat them like they were in the bible.
Credit scores may be relatively new, but Equifax as a company existed since 1899 as "Retail Credit Company" and has always done some form of credit reporting.
Do people want to go back to the system that was used before credit scores? Where the person serving the loan just made the choice based off if they thought you seemed trustworthy? Aka were a white man who went to the same church as them.
It's so cute you think that credit scores aren't racist.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/11/how-structural-racism-plays-a-role-in-lowering-credit-scores.html
Every system is racist because every system is human and humans are flawed. Credit scores include systemic racism and banks making calls based on their gut is direct practiced racism. Systemic racism is much easier to slowly over time work out as long as you recognize it. But the only way to stop direct racism is to take at least some of the power away from individuals.
The systemic racism like the structural one in the argument can only be gotten rid of if you entirely removed the concepts of loans. The problem with that is it is impossible. The majority of the folks who have attempted to outlaw usury and loans entirely are not really looked back upon fondly in a historical sense.
OR, maybe we need to make a new system. It’s not just credit scores or total anarchy, have some imagination, fuck.
For example, maybe a system where paying your credit card off on time or consistently having enough cash to not even need a credit card means that your “score” goes up. If it is truly about being reliable then that’s a no brainer, and yet…
We also shouldn’t be needing so much in the way of loans anyway and we deal with that by forcing minimum wage increases. It’s insane how much people have to put on cards and how normal it is to barely manage a monthly payment on a 30-40 year mortgage. The US and Canada specifically demand that you own a car and the weather is often very hard on them, too, yet once again the prices go up and up and you have to hope for the best that you can afford the payments which hide their increases behind and extended term or only a few more dollars which adds up to thousands on the other end.
Maybe the answer is less reliance on a debt based economy. Maybe the answer is to not bake into the fabric of society a mechanism that makes a lifetime of debt a foregone conclusion. Kill the loan shark for all I care. Why does everyone need a loan? Because it's built to require one.
In an economy where skill (supposedly) correlates to income, income is expected to increase across a lifetime.
Therefore 25 year-old me borrowing excess income from 45 year-old me is a good thing, purely egotistically.
Furthermore lack of debt means every big purchase is preceded by hoarding. No matter which way you look at it this is bad for society. If I had 50k€ laying around it would be much more efficient resource-wise to lend it to my neighbor so they can build up their business, than to keep the money under my mattress and tell them to tighten their belt for another five years. They get a business, I get a bit more money in the end, everyone is richer and the economy is stronger.
Economics are not a zero-sum game. This belief that "if someone is making money then someone else is getting robbed" is deeply damaging, especially as it seems to be the main economic driver for Trump's batshit insane administration.
Debt is good. Predatory practices are not. That is what regulations are supposed to curtail. Where I live "credit scores" are not a thing, banks only loan to you based on proof of income, a declaration of open credit lines, and your civil status (age, partnership status, dependent people). Racism and sexism are of course an issue, although if caught the banks face big fines. But it's not like American credit scores are colorblind...
That was a great writeup. I see that "someone earning money hurts everyone else" mentality on Lemmy constantly, its maddeningly stupid.
Ok, so, telling lenders they cannot vet lenders is not reasonable.
Our critiques of credit scores does not automatically mean we want them abolished in favor the previous wink and a handshake.
But American credit scores don't measure your likelihood to pay back debts, they measure the likelihood of a lender to make money off of you. Those are nearly, but not quite, the same thing, and our current system, as the previous poster said, leads to a lifetime of debt obligations.
What we want is for life to not be dependant on debt.
Those are very different things.
The whole American credit system is frightening. You all but have to own a credit card (here they are only used by people travelling internationally), the credit card needs to be paid off manually (!?!? my bank just auto-withdraws the balance monthly), etc.
Here we employ a straightforward system to vet potential lenders : mortgages almost always have a contractual stipulation that you must use that bank to cash in your paychecks. Your bank will ask for proof of a stable income. You have to put down a downpayment. Defaulting on a mortgage furthermore puts you in a government registry; it's not "a wink and a handshake" as you put it, but a formal tightly-regulated process.
There is nothing that the credit score system does that the Belgian system doesn't achieve, except the part where it enables banks to prey on people through a privately owned and unregulated system used to push citizens towards short-term credit and needlessly dangerous financing habits. A 30 year-old with 50k€ in a savings account and no credit history sounds to me like someone who "should" get a mortgage a lot more than someone juggling 3 credit cards and a 10-year car loan. But the american credit system incentivizes the opposite. That is anarcho-capitalist predation.
As a person with very little debt, this is the way.
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