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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The main problem still is that for some configuration you still need to use the CLI, the average user does not want to touch that no matter how powerful it is, they want a fully functional GUI that lets you so exactly the same thing but by clicking on buttons. Pair that with drivers that either do not exist or will not work for (some) of your hardware, odd crashed like the Bluetooth stack crapping out and not working anymore until you restart the system, or the system that hangs from hibernation with a black screen. So unless those hurdles are tackled the Linux adoption rate will stay low because the average user wants a system that works, and not one they have to debug.

I've been on and off different distros of Linux since Ubuntu 6 using Pop_OS! as my daily driver for work a few years now, and the same problems I had then are still here today which is a shame honestly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 minutes ago

Yeah, that sums up my experience quite well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

How do I make the change less scary? I made my pc like 10 years ago and not looked at it since. I just use it for personal admin now and Rome 2 total war twice a year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

The easiest way is to buy a used ssd, and dual-boot. Ive heard, always install windows first and then linux.

Done this way, there shouldnt be any problems. If you realize you dont need one of the operating systems, you could just wipe the disk and mount it again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hm, the the absolute least scary option would be to try it out on a live bootable USB. That's not difficult, it's the first step before installing pretty much any modern distro.

The second least but slightly more technically advanced would be to get a second hard drive and install Linux on that completely separately from your windows install. The technical part here is your BIOS will have a default boot drive and will boot from there on start up, so you would need to interrupt the boot and select which OS you want.

I personally went with the second option, as dual booting from the same had drive is a minefield with windows, as they have a tendency to wreck the Linux boot part. But when I swapped, I set the default boot to my Linux hard drive to get in the habit of using it, and if I ever need anything from windows nowadays (only VR) I select that on boot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 28 minutes ago

Balls, it sounds like I need to go with the second option.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Before I bought a Steam Deck I had never used Linux but now I really like it, honestly I'm tempted to install SteamOS on my PC as it's only ever used for gaming anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Go for Bazzite. It's basically Steam OS but with extra stuff that makes it "just work", even on an Nvidia GPU.

Once Valve releases their official Steam OS, you can always switch to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I use Pop!_Os currently. Also has an "nvidia distro" and have a comparable experience of it mostly "just working".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Steam OS, it's not released to the public yet, but I know others waiting for it too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Same, before steam deck I remembered my literal 15 year old terrible ubuntu experience. Nowardays I can say for from my experience as an ex MF mentioned in OP, is that those MFs think is a linux experience, is just projecting current state of windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Back then, upgrading the OS was borderline impossible without using a terminal. Is that still the case?

Luckily my friends showed me The Way of Arch back in 2011 and I never looked back

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

Idunno i just click "update" on whatever the appstore is called on this window manager and watch it go brr. Terminal is mostly used for ssh and tunnel for some schoolwork or starting a database server. Which you have to do after installing extra programs on windows anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that Linux is only ready in certain cases. For me, it isn't there yet, because I can't use it for my gaming machine. Every time this is brought up, Linux enthusiast shrug it off as "no big deal", you can game on Linux, just the games that use kernel level anti-cheat won't work. Well yeah, that's a bit the issue, I still like to play some of those games you see?

Meanwhile, I have Linux Mint running on a laptop that I bring on vacation. I don't game on that one. Then Linux works just as well as any other OS, no issue.

[–] MajorHavoc 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not "Linux isn't ready", it's "I still play games from companies that like to fuck with me."

It's fine, and we get it. But Linux isn't ever going to fix that.

Edit: We are seeing a lot more care from companies now that the SteamDeck is popular, so I hope your favorites get some relief.

I've accepted that I'll need a weird rig to play my favorite games that come from developers with shitty practices.

Ironically, mine tend to be Linux rigs emulating Windows to get things just right. But we do what we have to do play our favorite games.

Anyway, I'm not judging you, or your gaming choice.

I'm judging the game developers for choosing shitty tools that make our lives harder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Luckily PCI pass-through using IOMMU works nicely these days, but I honestly still keep a Windows 10 partition for this..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

It works nicely, and I use it for VR games, but it doesn't really solve the anti-cheat problem, because these anti-cheats tends to not allow VMs anyway.

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