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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Many lossless codecs are lossy codecs + residual encoders. For example FLAC has predictor(lossy codec) + residual.

[–] [email protected] 200 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's loss-less, not loss-none

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dang it, was going to make this same joke lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It's a good joke

[–] [email protected] 160 points 3 days ago (10 children)

We really need someone other than Qualcomm & Apple to come up with lossless Bluetooth audio codecs.

TBF the whole Bluetooth audio situation is a complete mess

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Opus! It's a merge of a codec designed for speech (from Skype!) with one designed for high quality audio by Xiph (same people who made OGG/Vorbis).

Although it needs some more work on latency, it prefers to work on bigger frames but default than Bluetooth packets likes, but I've seen there's work on standardizing a version that fits Bluetooth. Google even has it implemented now on Pixel devices.

Fully free codec!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Bluetooth as a whole is kind of a mess if we’re being honest.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you have a 25 year old protocol and try to maintain backwards compatibility through all of the versions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The world of audio would be more of a mess if Bluetooth was developed scrapped and replaced according to what seems to be your recommendations. I'm glad they did it the way they did.

It's not time for change. Just alternatives for snobs.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can we name a more poorly implemented protocol? Probably. One used as much as Bluetooth? Probably not.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Wait, did Apple implement its own codec? I thought even the Airpods Max used AAC, which is lossy.

As for Qualcomm, only aptX Lossless is lossless and I'm not aware of many products supporting it (most supports aptX HD at most)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the problem (imo) isn't lossy v lossless. It's that the supported codecs are part of the Bluetooth standard and they were developed in like the 90s.

There are far better codecs out there and we can't use them without incompatible extensions on Bluetooth.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

There's a push for Opus now, it's the perfect codec for Bluetooth because it's a singular codec that fits the whole spectrum from low bandwidth speech to high quality audio, and it's fully free

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Could also stand for Lazy DumbAss Cat if the pic is any relation

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (5 children)

As unfortunate as the naming misdirection is, I have to say: LDAC sounds significantly better (to me) than other Bluetooth codecs I have tried. It also works on Linux and android with no issues whatsoever. Open source is good.

I use it with a pair of Sony XM5's, which can also be used in wired mode, so you kind of get the best of both worlds.

[–] sus 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

at high signal strength LDAC should default to 990kbps.. which is kind of ridiculous since it's so high it's higher than some lossless codecs, like uncompressed 16-bit 48kHz. (which is higher than standard CD quality)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Uncompressed 16 bit 48KHz stereo is 1536 kbps, which is just slightly higher than what bluetooth 5 is capable of.

[–] sus 21 points 3 days ago

Oh I forgot about stereo, ha.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The bitrate is manually enforceable on Linux, too

*specifically using PipeWire

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Pipewire or the pulseaduo Bluetooth codec add-on. The pipewire implementation seems to be mimicking the old pulseaudio plugin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

That's assuming raw PCM data, no compression (lossy or lossless) whatsoever.

LDAC can do lossless redbook audio (16 bit 44.1 KHz) at 990kbps. All other modes are lossy.
It's probably doing something much like FLAC- lossy encoder + residual corrections to ensure you get the original waveform back out, but with less bandwidth than raw PCM.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Ah, misleading use of terminology that indicates one thing, but will win in court even if it actually means, or can later be said to mean, another.

I hope those involved in helping companies win these lawsuits choke on bones from food sold as boneless. Because that won a court case after "boneless" was redefined as a cooking method.

I don't want them to choke to death. Just a little lesson, you know?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I vote they choke indefinitely. But not to death; I want them to die of old age, spending decade upon decade choking endlessly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I work in pro AV and so many companies do this. Wow, you say LOSSLESS video on a valens chip? Oh, you've never actually done a side-by-side conparison, have you..

Extron differentiates between lossless and "visually lossless" which I appreciate.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember when unlimited minutes plans for cell phones meant 300 minutes.

Or when Comcast had unlimited downloads which was capped at 2 TB.

These shitty companies know exactly what they are doing.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Does this meme format / cat have a name? I was trying to find the raw version the other day and could not.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

> knowyourmeme link

> look inside

> cat

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