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[–] [email protected] 282 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

sometimes you bring on a ceo just to get some controversial thing done. they can eat the blame and then leave

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm embarrassed it took me so long to realize this. Somebody explained that to me recently, within the context of a conversation about layoffs. That CEO had no prior CEO experience, was only there for less than a year, and was part of the board of directors. In hindsight it seems so obvious.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

So like a corporate sin eater?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You bring in a female CEO to take the fall. The narrative gets to be about her weak leadership.

Ellen Pao wasn’t even CEO for a full year. Reddit clearly put her in charge to take the heat - which they knew would be ample based on her sex alone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

So replacing a woman with a woman, and then bringing back the original woman is what made you think the fall person had to be a woman? Reddit may have done so.. but I find it hard to believe this was sex/gender related. Otherwise it would have made more sense to replace the woman with a man, have him take the fall and go back to Whitney so it made her / the company look better long term.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly this, they are usually young too and they know their only job is to fire ppl and/or do decisions that will make most if not all unhappy. I have only seen it once my self but a lot of friends went through that at their company.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's what boeing does everytime a plane goes down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

That must be quite a list of ceo's

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

There's a big problem with the "women message first" gimmick, and it's that they just don't.

If they don't simply let the match expire, you either get a shitty Gif, or something along the lines of "hey."

Maybe one in ten will actually send a message that genuinely starts a conversation.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I literally saw so many profiles being like “I don’t message first”, like do you even understand what the app you’ve signed up for is?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago

I always wondered if they realised we actually can't send the first message.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, men CAN message first, as of like 8 months ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I did hear about that.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

it would work better if it was "women swipe first'. men can look at and swipe the women who swiped them already. this solves two problems:

  1. women are not seen by anyone they don't want to be
  2. men don't need to spend hours swiping hundreds of women

please give me 1 million dollars

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (13 children)

This means men will see many fewer women on the platform in many cases.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

it means men would not spend hours on the app, which means nobody would ever do this

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exactly, Im 50 and Im not rich or particularly good looking. If I was straight I might only see 5 or 6 women on the app that would match with me to begin with and if those didn't become anything I'd be done with that app. It can't work

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Would you rather see 5 or 6 women that all expressed interest in you or a thousand women who have never and probably will never even see you? Open the app, swipe 5 or 6 times, move on with your life.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

i am the most attractive sexy man in my entire giant city of 23 million people but i still have to swipe 50 girls to get 1 match and i might not even be that interested in her. better to meet girls in real life and follow them around on the tube and insert myself into their personal space 🚀

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Facebook dating kinda has this where you get notified if someone likes you Ironically it works better than any other dating app. The whole swipe til you both match deal is just to keep people paying and using the app for longer

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

That's the premium feature in pretty much every dating app. You get to see who likes you but you have to pay the money to find out if anyone swiped on you at all.

They imply that lots of people swiped on you but you don't actually know until after you've given the money.

So basically your plan is to just remove the con part which I'm all in favor of.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you either get a shitty Gif, or something along the lines of "hey."

So same result as when men message first.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Might just be my experience, but men put in more effort. Probably because women are more desirable so they don't really need to.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I loved bumble when I was on it 🤷‍♂️ much, much higher hit rate than any other app

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Well cultural habits are slow to change. I suspect it would take some 20 years to change the dynamics such than women are always expected to make the first move.

Bumble was well positioned to push for that change, unfortunately earning revenue has a priority, they are are a business after all. Still their gimmick got the ball rolling, we'll see who picks it up next.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

That ratio was much higher for me. I'd say about 70% sent a message. Probably work on the profile, make it more interesting? If that is now really gone I'm not sure whether I ever install that App anymore, it was nice not having to come up with first messages with questionable outcome...

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Is the signature feature that women initiate or was that some other app?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago
[–] JackbyDev 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah. I used the BFF version for a bit to try and find folks in my area to hang out with. It's a really horrible app. When someone messages you, you have 24 hours to respond. If you don't then the two of you get unmatched. I can understand something like unlatching after some time period without responding, but just 24 hours? Ick.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ohh you mean the "pay for every little thing" -feature? Dang I really liked that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Also regarding cost: I have yet to hear how a dating app solves the paradox that success means losing a customer. The incentives of the company and customer are not aligned and actually quite the opposite.

The company wants you to stay and spend as much as possible on the platform (optimizing to keep you just engaged enough to stick with it), whereas the ideal outcome for the customer means not needing the app in as little time as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, as a gay dude reading the comments here, straight dating sucks, why is it even like that?

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