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Kamala Harris Paid the Price for Not Breaking With Biden on Gaza, New Poll Shows
(www.dropsitenews.com)
Imagine throwing an election because you love genocide too much.
this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2025
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It's amazing that she was in bed with Israel according to pro Palestinians and in bed with Hamas according to pro Israeli.
We all have been played through social media algorithms, and it didn't really matter what stance she had or would have.
Disinformation was so amazingly orchestrated that people on both sides of any issue hated her.
I don't like shitty conspiracies but this really felt like they were working really hard to try to lose the election.
No, I really thought trump was trying to lose. Saying people in ohio eat cats and dogs, and he has no plan, just concepts of a plan. I really thought he was throwing the election.
I made one mistake. I forgot that this country is full of morons.
I thing Trump was trying to loose and his handlers were trying their best to stop him.
It's doubtable this poll has uncovered something that countless other post-election polls have missed.
It's more likely that the pollster is biased. This is the first sentence of About section of the pollster's website: "Palestinians, like all people, are entitled to live in freedom and with their human rights respected. Yet, for too long, the US government has funded and enabled Israel’s denial of Palestinian human rights."
But other polls have found similar results?
I dug into the survey and it appears they intentionally skewed the results by the word choice and order of the questions.
For example: "5. Do you [favor or oppose] the Biden administration approving taxpayer-funded weapons and other military support to Israel, even if the U.S. government has no control over whether the Israeli military uses those weapons on innocent civilians in Gaza, or are you undecided?"
The wording in that question will predispose a respondent to view the Biden administration negatively, even if that wasn't the main reason that a respondent chose not to vote.
Worse, they asked that question before they asked about sitting out the election, predisposing the respondent to view that topic as more significant in their decision to sit out the election.
If the purpose of a poll was to figure out the reason for not voting, this is not a scientific way to do it. It predictably would skew results as it appears to have done.
I think the guys at TLDR news said it best: if Trump threatening to withhold aid was enough to get a cease-fire deal, then Biden HAD enough leverage this whole time to get one. He just DIDN'T USE IT.
If this poll is to be believed (which is a big if), Biden and Harris let a fascist back into the whitehouse because they didn't want to stop a genocide.
Not only did he have the option, he was advised by White House counsel that continuing to arm the genocide was a violation of domestic & international law. He did it anyway.
Trump isn't pro Palestine. How on earth are people so dumb.
All Harris needed to do was change her position on that to win. How on earth was she so dumb?
How on earth do you think an american president will position themselves on Israël ever? There is zero chance one will go against, zero. And who ever believe Trump would not support Israël is delusional.
It really makes me wonder why on earth a democrat would ever not vote democrat in your current system. Sure she is far from ideal. But trump???
Its like the french not voting macron and letting lepen passs !
So fucking idiots were idiots, as usual. And they believe they're somehow morally superior while handing Gaza over to Israel in the process. As if Trump and the Republican party was the better option, they care even less about Gaza than the Biden admin.
This is why the Dems and progressive both keep losing everything, too many dumb fucks that think they're making a difference while just making things worse with inaction.
You know, while I am a fan of choosing the lesser evil, when the "lesser evil" is genocide, maybe it is time to re-consider the approach.
Their response was to avoid it, resulting in the worst option by default.
It was clear this would be the result. Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally. And considering the entire supposed reasoning was moral, they failed spectacularly.
Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally.
Strictly speaking, assuming Democrats care about winning elections, it is not true.
Sure, you get the worst option for one or two terms, but you would hopefully force the Democratic party to reform and stop supporting Genocides in the long term.
This is why I hate when people try to shift the blame on voters. This was 100% the Democrats election to loose, and they did.
You can't really change the voters, so what is the point of complaining about them? You can change the party to allow it to win the next time. Blaming the voters is just distracting from that.
Impactful. Thanks 🙏🏻
Sure, you get the worst option for one or two terms, but you would hopefully force the Democratic party to reform and stop supporting Genocides in the long term.
I'm not entirely convinced that the USA still has terms.
If ye mean it as a meme, then yes, haha.
If you are actually worried, then don't be. However much capitalists may suck, they won't allow a dictator who could confiscate their wealth to take over. It's against their own self-interest. And they have enough influence over media, politicians and probably some assassins to remove Trump if needed. That's why communist democracies turn authoritarian pretty much on day one, while the very capitalistic ones tend to survive.
If Trump was actually smart and competent, maybe there would be a risk, but as is, I am not worried.
Maybe if Democrats stop taking entire demographics for granted without providing them with anything, they'd win more.
Demos like the "won't support any genocide" demo.
I need to read the article, but I'm going in skeptically. I think progressives - especially younger, more idealistic ones - are ignorant of just how much money and influence AIPAC wields.
Maybe she could have gotten those 29% (however many actual votes that amounts to), but it AIPAC would have turned actively hostile against her, my guess is those votes would have been overshadowed by the loss of pro-Israel votes she did get.
I think centrists - especially older more cynical ones who are less idealistic and more transactional in their politics in a selfish way are ignorant of how being too afraid to fight, or to have solidarity, or to draw red lines in the sand about GENOCIDE is the reason fascists took power.
Young, idealistic progressives who are willing to actually fight to defend what they love are our only hope and if you are an older jaded centrist, keep your mouth shut and listen, you have a lot to unlearn and not much time left to do it before the violence y'all helped normalize consumes us all.