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Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So fucking idiots were idiots, as usual. And they believe they're somehow morally superior while handing Gaza over to Israel in the process. As if Trump and the Republican party was the better option, they care even less about Gaza than the Biden admin.

This is why the Dems and progressive both keep losing everything, too many dumb fucks that think they're making a difference while just making things worse with inaction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You know, while I am a fan of choosing the lesser evil, when the "lesser evil" is genocide, maybe it is time to re-consider the approach.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Their response was to avoid it, resulting in the worst option by default.

It was clear this would be the result. Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally. And considering the entire supposed reasoning was moral, they failed spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally.

Strictly speaking, assuming Democrats care about winning elections, it is not true.

Sure, you get the worst option for one or two terms, but you would hopefully force the Democratic party to reform and stop supporting Genocides in the long term.

This is why I hate when people try to shift the blame on voters. This was 100% the Democrats election to loose, and they did.

You can't really change the voters, so what is the point of complaining about them? You can change the party to allow it to win the next time. Blaming the voters is just distracting from that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Impactful. Thanks 🙏🏻

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, you get the worst option for one or two terms, but you would hopefully force the Democratic party to reform and stop supporting Genocides in the long term.

I'm not entirely convinced that the USA still has terms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If ye mean it as a meme, then yes, haha.

If you are actually worried, then don't be. However much capitalists may suck, they won't allow a dictator who could confiscate their wealth to take over. It's against their own self-interest. And they have enough influence over media, politicians and probably some assassins to remove Trump if needed. That's why communist democracies turn authoritarian pretty much on day one, while the very capitalistic ones tend to survive.

If Trump was actually smart and competent, maybe there would be a risk, but as is, I am not worried.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe if Democrats stop taking entire demographics for granted without providing them with anything, they'd win more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Demos like the "won't support any genocide" demo.