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The erasure of Luigi Mangione (substack.evancarroll.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Right now, on Stack Overflow, Luigi Magione’s account has been renamed. Despite having fruitfully contributed to the network he is stripped of his name and his account is now known as “user4616250”.

This appears to violate the creative commons license under which Stack Overflow content is posted.

When the author asked about this:

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question. Of course, they did draft a letter which credited the action to other events that occurred weeks before where I merely upvoted contributions from Luigi and bountied a few of his questions.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I am a little tired of the idea that "tech" is something extraordinary. Capitalists in a capitalist society will do all evil to fulfill their goal, t3ch or no tech. You could use the same sentence in everything in this society. Even: "... and how green energy always serves the ruling class."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Reducing someone to a number has never backfired in a revolutionary way. Just ask prisoner 24601

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

I thought the exact same thing and we should all endeavor to use 4616250 as a meme.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago

In this century, there could never be an Anne Frank. Thank social networks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I had 40k points on SO though I no longer contribute. Stackexchange is basically dead because it's a for-profit with very poor direction and LLMs basically made the entire thing obsolete relative to the monetary growths it needs to be sustainable. Understandably they can't attract any attention like this as they're 🤏 from going under.

I feel a bit sad for stackexchange but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I think stackexchange has their days numbered tho so this is realy not all that relevant. Give them a year or two tops

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's sad because Stack Exchange came out because Experts Exchange sucked. And now they also suck.

In the day of AI, will we ever have a new alternative?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

In the day of AI, will we ever have a new alternative?

perhaps we'll see a resurgence of value added platforms that ensure it's all human generated information. not an easy problem but... if there's demand

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah I doubt it tbh. I loved my time with stackoverflow and it landed me jobs and friends but I'm quite bullish when it comes IT and AI. It's not replacing devs yet but definitely replacing q&a, debugging tools, code reviews etc already/soon.

I hope we'll have some open social coding experience like SO but trends seem to point towards more private stuff like coaching, bookcamps, shitty discord servers etc. as that's the only thing that can be funded sustainably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm Spartacus!

[–] [email protected] 78 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] [email protected] 46 points 17 hours ago

“Trickle down economics only occurs when the wealthy bleed.”

Similar, and appropriate. The working class will only benefit once the wealthy are no longer wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 16 hours ago

Stack being weird and toxic I'm shocked, shocked I tell you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Lol @ the "Ross Ulbrecht requested that we keep his username" bullshit.

Oh ok, guys, nevermind. It's not a big deal because the criminal requested that we keep their username...

[–] [email protected] 49 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Assigning to a number like they do prisoners.

Disgusting behaviour from Stack Overflow and the perpetrators.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

He's user number 24601 as far as I'm concerned

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 21 hours ago (12 children)

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question.

Laws mean nothing anymore. Therefore licenses mean nothing. Therefore ownership means nothing, and "theft" no longer exists.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 19 hours ago

Therefore ownership means nothing, and “theft” no longer exists.

WOAH WOAH WOAH... hold on there Circuitfarmer (checks clipboard) It says here you're not nearly affluent enough to circumvent the law... we'll be keeping a close eye on you... --BB

[–] [email protected] 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I managed to convince my brother in law by using the wrongful death case of Kanokporn Tangsuan as an example. Framed it as his moral responsibility to never sign up for any digital media ever again since he has a family. I pointed him to a few resources to sail the high seas and he's got his high seas pc hooked up to his TV and cancelled all his subscriptions. I'm so proud.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

“No wars but class wars” as true today as when Trotsky said it many decades ago. Not sure how anyone cannot see this very, very clear fact, made self evident by the treatment of Luigi and the composition of the upcoming administration and its supporters.

But every other commoner that sees it needs to take according measures.

Culture is not our friend.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Apropos of nothing, this was an article about substance from a year ago:

Substack faces user revolt over anti-censorship stance on neo-Nazis

Fuck substack.

Shit, this article is about stack overflow, not substack. Too early, but still fuck substack.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (8 children)

"Censorship forced me to flee a pro-nazi site to another pro-nazi site," is a contradiction worth noting. It highlights the general pro-nazi vibe going around big tech.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The internet just isn’t fun anymore. Right wing bigots are stomping around and the best communities are all either crumbling or raising their bridges and filling their motes so AI can’t scrape them and these asshats can’t get in, killing the ability for new people to find them. And who can blame them? They want to protect their communities from very real threats.

The internet is Balkanizing and it’s to our collective detriment.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (16 children)

By this logic, everyone charged (not convicted, just charged) should have their accounts and submissions changed in the same manner as Luigi's.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago

Man I sure wish this'd mean all Trump-generated content and speeches got deleted. That'd be genuinely helpful to the world at least...

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Stopped using stack overflow ages ago because of how many assholes there are there.

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[–] [email protected] 387 points 1 day ago (21 children)

user4616250 will now be a famous meme. "How do we fix healthcare? We call user4616250."

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's fucking bullshit.

Censorship needs to die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

"Cancel culture" as a term has been abused, but this one... damn this is really cancel culture.

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