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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a bit disingenuous; what's considered the "new year" is usually aligned with the seasons and the passing of winter, which is very much not arbitrary and completely dependent on the tilt of Earth's axis.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think Brazil and Australia would like a word.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

You mean the Portuguese and the English, who brought their traditions with them

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

From the Sun's perspective, perihelion or aphelion would make more sense, I guess.

By sheer coincidence, perihelion is a few days away at the time of writing, so we could lie to the Sun that this is an early celebration of that.

Of course, this comes with two problems: 1) The common era new year is actually a belated marking of the solstice (much like Christmas a week before). Perihelion will be later and later on average with respect to it due to the procession of the poles, so the lie is going to become more and more apparent over the coming centuries. 2) The Sun might think we're celebrating being far away because we hate it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

New Year's is my favorite holiday. Just gonna chill with a friend with beer, crackers and some chess/video games. My Christmas present from my dad was to go buy some fireworks with him, so I got a bunch of stuff to do at midnight.

Way better than Christmas or Easter or other baloney festivities. New Year's is at least somewhat tangible even tho I do concede, it makes no difference.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It‘s not completely arbitrary. New year is after the shortest day for daylight of the year.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're thinking of the Winter Solstice, which was on Dec. 21!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I think Brazil and Australia would like a word.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Hey, gotta start somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck you, let us have fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

In theory, couldn't we use the exact point the Earth is precisely between the sun and galactic center?

[–] nullPointer 1 points 1 month ago

technically, everyone's new year is on their birthday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aren't all forms of measurement (in this case it's a measurement of time) completely arbitrary?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In this case I might argue that there are more "natural" points of reference (eg. solstices/equinoxes).

We use political/religious markers instead which are completely irrelevant to the planet's orbit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, winter solstice is a little more than a week away, I'd say that was probably a significant influence on the designation of end of the year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The Julian calendar, the predecessor to the modern Gregorian calendar, didn't quite fully account for leap year shenanigans, and so drifted be about 1 day every century. The Gregorian calendar changed the way leap year works, but didn't reset the beginning of the year. It just froze the drift where it was at the time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar