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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Mod [email protected] posted a really creepy and pro-pedophilia post at https://lemmy.cafe/post/11105990

Mod immediately bans the two people that call it out as trolls.

Update: post is locked after two more bans

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

link says couldnt_find_post

if you wanna reiterate about a conversation online, it would be good to include screenshots of what was actually written. otherwise it's hard to follow.

edit: nvm i found an archive in the comments

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

A paedophile is a person who's sexually attracted to children before they hit puberty, so they lose interest in them around 10 or 11 years old. That weird (ex-)mod and all of you in here are talking about Ephebophilia, the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.
(I'm not arguing in favor of any of this!)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

I think we can say this one is about wrapped up, they banned his mod account and the community from lemmy.cafe. Maybe he'll start another somewhere else, but when that happens someone can just make another post.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yikes this is not good, this person probably should not be a mod of this community, or any community really. Sticking up for pedophilia is a really bad thing to do and also probably could get the instance in legal trouble. This is way past power tripping in my opinion, it could be a legal issue for the instance.

lemmy.cafe's admins should probably look into this and possibly kick out this mod, since it could possibly cause them some big issues later if he dos anything like this in the future.

Edit: Archive.is Link CW: Pedophilia apologia.

CC: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (5 children)

https://lemmy.cafe/c/thoughts

Looks like that community is his own personal soapbox for telling everyone that he wants to fuck 14 year olds. Consider reporting it to the admins of the instance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The community was deleted

☠️

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Good riddance!

Edit: in case you missed it and was curious what it was... it was about 6 or 7 posts all from that same guy over the span of about a year, all of which were long winded rants complaining about "ageism" and concluding that the age of consent should be lowered to 14.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago

Consider reporting it to the admins of the instance.

I've done that same thing with a similar sort of instance, and mods banned the community and the moderator from their instance.

Reporting works.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Community is called "thoughts".

Only one poster visigoth_860 who is also the mod.

Am I allowed to pee in the popcorn? because I got some thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Well, that's a user tag I didn't expect to have to make. Gross.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sex with minors? With an age gap bigger than like 2 years, no. But close in age is fine, like 17 and 18.

20 year olds want 15 year olds

Uh...

Matt Gaetz

Oh. Oh no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

It's amazing how easily he stretched a 20 year to 15 year age gap to Matt Gaetz, who is like 40 years old.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah I can tell you right now, as someone who has been a 20 year old man, they absolutely do not want to be with 15 year olds unless something is very wrong with them.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

The post was deleted, but I was able to access it exploiting the fact that the deletion didn't federate with another instance. ~~Should I repost it here? Serious question, it's yucky but without the content of the post it's really hard to say something about it.~~

EDIT: archive link to the post. Discretion is advised.


Anyway. I'll focus on the claims made by the user, instead of assuming if he is or isn't a paedophile.

What people like that mod, or Richard Stallman, don't get, is:

  • consent is impaired if one person has power over another
  • the age gap gives you power

Beyond that all that talk about desire is a big red herring because attraction is shit inside your head, what matters is what you do.

I won't comment about remocrats vs. depublicans because I don't care about USA internal politics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Dude the mental gymnastics this guy tries to put you through to try and justify trying to make leftists okay with him wanting to fuck 15 year olds is insane. And you can tell he thinks he’s WAY smarter than he actually is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. The whole thing is a fallacious slop: fallacy of the beard, straw man, begging the question, so goes on. And as a result, he's defending something that is morally insane.

Those two are not the same:

  • a 20yo has sex with a 17yo; no payment is involved
  • a 42yo has sex with a 17yo; the 17yo is an escort

and yet he's trying to make both look like the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

He’s also trying to posit the idea that the left is losing elections because they won’t embrace pedophilia and that is alienating male voters. Which is an insane take.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

or Richard Stallman,

Well, I learned something new and horrible today

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. His opinions about software freedom are fairly solid, but when it comes to children and sexuality, he'd do everyone a favour if he simply shut up.

In his defence, though, I don't think that he's a paedophile; I think that he's just trying to extend his views about individual freedom into sexuality, but he's too socially clueless to get it right. And then the whole thing blew out of proportion because of both witch hunters and people exploiting it for political opposition.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Very good software people are not very good social people.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Age gap sex isn't harmful

Uhh OK mayyybe?

Chris Hansen damaged society

HELLO FBI? THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Chris Hansen damaged society

There's a sincere argument that turning "Pedo Hunting" into a consumer spectacle has done nothing to deter the act of child sex trafficking and exploitation, but been fantastic for the NextDoor community of busybodies and concern-trolls. The #MeToo movement has flatlined. I don't see any real efforts to provide financial aid or social assistance to kids targeted for sex work. But lots of local news sites seem obsessed with elevating allegations of sex between kids to the front pages.

Reminds me of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, wherein 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic ritual abuse were reported and investigated by prosecutors leaning into the national media trend and looking to make headlines. Right now, we've got a flood of Trans-Panic and Gay-Panic news articles that try and conflate kids going through hormone therapy with psycho-leftist parents doing mass grooming.

Doesn't look like this guy gives a shit about LGBTQ civil rights. But those that do are chronically aware of how simply being queer can get you tossed in the same category as creeps and predators.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago

I also remember hearing somewhere that the show tainted so many cases with bad practices and horrible evidence gathering techniques that they couldn't get convictions once the proper authorities were involved.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Yeah, there have been some cases of "pedo hunters" here; turned out to be a flimsy cover story for violent nazis.

It's, uh, not a topic suited for thoughtless entertainment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Social media dorks keep trying to emulate hansen but keep "accidentally" getting the wrong person. And when they do get the right person all it does is warn them they got got and it's time to skedaddle before the actual cops show up.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Holy shit this person seriously is a fucked up individual.

Does lemmy.cafe have any infrastructure for removing dangerous people from their instances?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yah that post is gross. I'd remove it.

There's your reason why.

The pedo holds the reins.

Block the community, block the user, move on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Should probably report this stuff to their instance admins. That way it disappears completely, that's a better solution than pretending things don't exist, especially when it comes to shit like this where the person is a pedophile.

I'd also suggest letting your local instance admins know about it since once they know they can ban the user with content removal which will wipe out he community on those instances as well.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, quite aware that's the mod and thought I said as much. Should I reword it to make it clearer that both the mods I refer to are the same?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Republicans, by boldly overlooking large quantities of sexual misconduct committed by many of their most prominent members, show horny 20 year old male voters that it’s ok. The GOP understands and tolerates them.

Rape culture? On MY Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

That OP must be a nonce, a rapist, or both.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

Gross. I've been on here since the reddit exodus. Found my first user to block.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yikes, that post has a real ick factor! Like a pedo apologist’s essay, and what do you want to bet he’s a horny 20 yo?

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 18 points 2 days ago

The part that really squicked me out was combining the drinking with the underage. Like they need to impair a naive person's judgement even more to have a chance. No way this guy has any game.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

I've seen someone on lemmy make that very same argument. That person seems quite delusional.

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