TheAlbatross

I was confused watching Reading Rainbow because I didn't understand how a blind man could be reading to me.

Lil bonus, I know first hand why floppy disks are called that, but only because my dad had some old games.

They're not a Russian operative, they're using Nazi as shorthand for Zionist in an attempt to point out that Israel's actions in Palestine are utterly abhorrent and the genocide happening there should be regarded with similar disdain as the genocides of Nazi Germany and Harris has taken a hardline stance of continuing US military support to Israel.

But it's a clumsy shorthand, it's ineffective in communicating to American voters, as it lumps two different groups of white supremacists together when there's material distinctions that affect people living in America.

It's meant to be glib against Israelis who would shudder at being compared to the genociders of their ancestors, but it isn't Israelis voting in this election, so it mostly comes off as overly bitter.

It's an easy trap to fall into as a leftist in America, as there's so much abhorrently wrong with our political system, but that kind of vitriol isn't often pragmatic and using disdainful shorthand isn't useful in radicalizing the plurality of Americans necessary to revolutionize politics in this country.

P.S., For what it's worth, treefrog, I largely agree with you, but you gotta meet people where they are, not where you want em to be. I think you'll find that many people here are not folks who "just want to get back to brunch", this was a far more applicable concept in previous elections, but rather they're terrified of what harm could come from a second Trump term at home with regards to climate, economic (workers rights, etc.) and social policies targeting Muslims, POC, and LGBTQ people. What's happening in Palestine is so utterly vile and it's a gut wretchingly sad truth that no candidate that can win will make a significant difference on US policy towards Israel and the Palestinians. Harris should be called out on that. Lumping people who are going to begrudgingly vote against Trump for her as Nazi sympathizers just isn't useful rhetoric.

I'd love to engage you in your point but that would make both of us sound like complete idiots.

Her smoking pot herself is irrelevant, it's bad that people were prosecuted for using drugs.

The hypocrisy doesn't matter, all politicians are lying hypocrites, I'm voting for the one that ain't supported by Nazis trying to drag America backwards a hundred years.

Interesting way the article writer chose to write "more than 1500"...

Focusing on the materially changes a Harris or Trump administration would have on Palestinians is a great point.

I don't know what material difference Harris would make, and vibes alone aren't a good way make those kinds of decisions.

I do believe a Trump presidency would be worse for Muslims in America and I think that's a valuable metric to consider, but, fuck, even if I think Harris is the pragmatic choice, I couldn't wholly condem someone for being less than enthusiastic about voting for someone who will continue the genocide of their friends and family.

I've also become fairly pessimistic about progress in the US, but I think it's incredibly important to buck against the rise of the right-wing authoritarianism in the US and unfortunately that means supporting the DNC this year.

I think you're right about both the weapons being the primary factor and that neither party will stop shipping them, though I also think Harris would put more pressure on Israel to end the atrocities and push for ceasefire. It's admittedly not nearly enough, but American politics never is.

That's the challenge the DNC has, isn't it? I wouldn't relish that job since I think Harris' position won't change, the DNC being the institution it is.

I think if I had do, I'd argue that while the DNC is 100% wrong on Palestine, Trump is stronger in his support of Israel, he's even less sympathetic to the Palestinians AND he will aim to make life in America harder for Muslims just as he tried in his first term.

It's a pragmatic choice, not an enthusiastic one, and it's hard to drive voters to the polls on pragmatism alone.

I would love to. I think Harris' position is abhorrent. But I think Trump is a larger threat to peace in Palestine and Jill Stein will not win. If we take those thoughts one step further, it doesn't make a lot of sense to avoid Harris.

Do you think a Trump presidency will be better or worse for the Palestinians than a Harris administration?

It seems to require a lack of critical thinking to avoid voting for Harris because of this since Trump will offer no better alternative.

Harris's position is wrong, of course, but avoiding a Trump presidency is crucial.

I'll buy the flu and demand angle when I see the egg suppliers post losses.

Fuck those greedy shits.

Kurt had no idea how big they'd get in the future.