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    [–] [email protected] 245 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Attention electron developers: under no circumstances do I want your entire app in .config.

    [–] mke 131 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You feel the curling of the monkey's paw; the entire app is now in ~/.local/AppName

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Even better, ~/.local/share/

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

    I mean... At least that's more correct... If the monkey's paw is giving us things that are better but not ideal i'm gonna use the fuck out of it.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    As an alternative, how about my entire cache in .config?

    Looking at you VSCode, with 3 unique cache folders.

    [–] [email protected] 134 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    but please don't hard-code ~/.config or $HOME/.config. Use the XDG_CONFIG_HOME environment variable, with $HOME/.config as a fallback if it's not set.

    Many programming languages have a cross-platform implementation of this built in to their standard library. C# has Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ApplicationData) which uses XDG_CONFIG_HOME on Linux, local AppData on Windows, and whatever is the correct thing on MacOS (not very familiar with how things work on MacOS)

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    On macOS, the correct thing to use is usually NSUserDefaults API, or - [NSFileManager URLsForDirectory:inDomains:] with NSApplicationSupportDirectory (gives a list of paths to find your config file in, like XDG_CONFIG_DIRS)

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

    Never new about this! That's very handy

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    [–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's still a lot better that creating random .folders per application in your home.

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Nah just put it in ~/.thing-config.d/01-0x45- 110100100-main.options-extra2cache.swp along with three godzillion other files like it's normal and very sane for users who edit such files to have the big picture of the default configuration dreamed up by some utterly deranged lunatic be spread across enough files to represent all known stars in the galaxy, standards are for losers amirite ^/s^

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)
    [–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The font in the screenshot makes me angry.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Idk what happened there either. After updating from Android 12 to 13, this is how it was ever since. And now I'm used to it.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

    Konsole once did that to me, and started inserting random tabs.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I like it. Makes me think of teletext

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Of course. Everything else is hosted on other's servers, and here I have the choice between dozens of storages, mainly selfhosted ones. The only exception being KeePassXC - but that's what rclone/rsync are for. So the DB resides on a WebDAV share on my Nextcloud now.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    Everything else is hosted on other’s servers

    You can self-host bitwarden with vaultwarden.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Hey! Would you mind guiding me as to what is going on in this picture? Is this an APP that allowed to SSH into your server? You got my attention with this picture, and I'm curious to hear more.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    It's Termux, basically a fully fletched terminal for Android. So you can install various tools via apt, and use them, for example yt-dlp, ffmpeg, gcc, python etc. And yes, you can also use SSH, both as server and client. I use it very often to connect to my servers on the go.

    You can even use chroot to basically run a distro of your choice.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Damn, that sound pretty cool, thanks for the info!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's also incredibly useful to backup /sdcard via rsync or Borg every night automatically

    Or access the contents of your phone via SFTP

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    [–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    XDG? OpenDesktop? Dunno what that is, time to dump everything into ~/.myawesomeapp

    [–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Oh, no. Don't even make it a hidden folder, it needs to be right there, front and center. And make sure you use a bunch of capital letters in the name, because you're so fucking important.

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

    And Arduino.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

    At least it gives you the option to change it

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

    Just dump it in ~

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It really depends for what. I don't think nginx config should be in $HOME/.conf/

    [–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Right? It goes into ~/Documents/

    SMH my head

    [–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Everything into ~/Downloads/ until the partition is full.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Unless it's running as your own user as part of your session. /etc for system-wide and ~/.config for your own user makes a lot of sense.

    [–] PoolloverNathan 6 points 2 months ago

    They want ~/etc/ in their home, which just seems like a renamed ~/.config/.

    [–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Please use $XDG_CONFIG_HOME (and other XDG base dirs)

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I’ve been forcing myself to learn to use NixOS with home-manager just to avoid this. Not to worry, it’s just my home.nix that’s a dumpster fire now

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I've been using Nix for a little more than a year, I don't think I've touched my configs in better than 6 months. I'm honestly not entirely certain what would constitute a dumpster fire in a Nix config

    I've probably only modified 50 or 60 lines of the default configs.

    I do have a folder full of shell.nix files when I need to do a special workflow, like I have one that kicks up wine and sets up mp3tag, another that sets up rust, another sets up Python, and one that sets up for yt-dlp. But I don't carry anything in my base configs that I don't use in a given week

    [–] silasmariner 4 points 2 months ago

    I set up a nix os for a friend once. Forgot the master password. It's been 5 years. Oh well.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

    Use xdg-ninja to help clear out unwanted files not in your home folder, and give tips to move them into a normal folder like .config

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

    Isn't that just .config?

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

    laughs in home-manager

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

    I keep my home directory nice and tidy in terms of visible files/folders, but as soon as you ls -a there's so much random shit

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I'm in this picture and I don't like it

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

    I just throw lots of dumb shit in my home directory. I actually have the Windows Entertainment Pack for Windows 3.1 in a folder in there. Runs great in WINE. Home directory is great for storing random files.

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