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This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning ... so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while
Now it looks like it's all we'll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world ... such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He's likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That's on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he's likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I'm so so sorry.
"Drill baby drill, frack baby frack".
Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.
This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.
This is what we're in for.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.
You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump's new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.
I hope you're wrong, this is fucking terrifying.
That ball started rolling in 2014 when we did fucking NOTHING in response to Russia annexing Crimea. Seriously, I consider that one moment to be Obama’s most catastrophic foreign policy failure.
And this is now why Ukraine has openly said they’re considering a crash nuclear weapons program - which they can do, because they had a lot of former Soviet personnel that operated and maintained Soviet nukes back in the day, and a lot of very fucking motivated and intelligent citizens who would absolutely love it if they could make Russia fuck off from their territory for good.
Nukes are the absolute final word in maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine would not be getting invaded now if they still had a few warheads stashed in a bunker being quietly maintained. But they signed the Budapest Memorandum, and gave them up in exchange for “security guarantees and assurances” which were ultimately thrown on the floor. Nobody will EVER make that deal again.
TL;DR: Nuclear proliferation is back with a vengeance, baby!
We're gonna fucking blow ourselves off the face of the earth, all because a few dudes just couldn't stop trying to obtain power. How disgusting.
As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.
Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.
We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.
Long-term fate was sealed with this election.
Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.
Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.
While I fully support these protests, they need to be planning for the responding violence from authorities. It's coming the day Trump takes office.
People protesting in Seattle or NYC are, rest assured, taking state sanctioned violence into account. SPD/NYPD are a great way to train a culture in how to mitigate absolute bastards.
And searches for "can I change my vote" and "what is a tariff" have spiked
Everyone has been warning against Trump (including his own ex staff and lawyers).
Big thanks to the donkeys though who promoted Trump and tried to pretend Kamala is the same.
I doubt there is a single economist that believes in Trump
Get ready because next year they going make protesting illegal, and Trump already signal his willingness to send troops to said protest. I suspect we will have protest and soldiers shooting said protesters. People under estimate how many mega have joined the army.
If making protesting illegal is enough to get you to stop protesting: You're not really upset enough to have protested in the first place for anything but taking pictures of it for social media points.
And it's not like protesters haven't been getting shot or beaten up by police even while it's legal.
That's why I would advise against directly confrontation means of protest. Instead look at things like malicious compliance, boycotts, 4B / birthstrike, anticonsumption, and other acts of non-participation. Labor strikes will probably be common, but those can be rather risky.
Governments know how to deal in violence. Don't give them a target to aim at.
I see all these comments roasting the protestors, but I'm just glad people are angry. It would have been great if the election went differently, but it didn't, and we are where we are. Support people getting mad with how things turned out. Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now. I voted, and I'm protesting. I'll happily welcome non voters in the protests too. Turn your frustration and anger against the people you oppose instead of willing allies.
Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.
It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right
This is a good lesson to those who are shocked by the win but didn't vote.
"Huh. I threw away my vote and now they're talking about implementing Project 2025 during Trump's revenge administration! Weird..."
Wasn’t the time to protest like before the election? Can’t figure the US line of reasoning
I think Trump's strategy was "I'm going to sound so crazy every Democrat will assume I'll lose and don't bother voting".
And it worked.
TWICE
both times dem consultants took the bait and courted republicans. Though this is the first time right wing immigration policies were pushed by the democrat.
Remember if you're going to any protests. Don't bring your phone and wear a mask. Use a map if you're not familiar with the area, write any important numbers you might need to call from a cell on your arm. Let friends know where you're going and don't go alone if you can.
monkey paw curls
The two party system is over
March and rally to protest Trump and the two-party war machine
Mass protests against the two-party system. Perhaps we can get some actual representation next election.
There isn’t going to be another election, not a real one anyway. It’s game over.
For starters, his first speech on 1A basically says he’s prosecuting anyone who dares to enforce the Hatch Act.
couldve been louder a couple months ago
"Hate never made America great" ? What the fuck are you even talking about? Your hate of commies launched you to the moon and made you a nuclear superpower. Your hate of the religious freedom in Europe caused you to invade another continent and cause genocide upon its inhabitants. Your hate of black people sparked a civil war that almost destroyed you as a country.
Hate is what defines you. As a reminder of the hate you perpetuate, your majority chose hate of women and minorities instead of throwing a known criminal in jail. Trump is the US. Hate is the US.
yall had your chance. fucked around and found out.
I still support the protests but, jesus christ, this fucking mess is only just beginning.
I get the feeling we need to be doing the work the Democrats refused to do: creating a political mandate. Protesting is part of creating that mandate, but one thing I would like to see is the inverse of the "ground game" l; where instead of going door to door to convince people of a solution, you get them involved in the decision process.
americans are awful at protesting. they show up, cant figure out where to park, have no organizations, have lame chants (e.g. hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has go to go), present the same meaningless meme protest posters, leave tons of trash behind, and it last a few hours. Nothing is sustained for multiple days or weeks, and the solidarity is with people who already were with you.
Yeah? Are more than 71 million people protesting? If so, where the fuck were you on Tuesday? And if not, well, I understand you don't like the election result but this isn't going to achieve anything.
"No but see I withheld my vote for Kamala because I don't feel she earned it"
Being persnickety with people putting their lives out there in protest is such a DNC move. Bet you bitched about the college gaza protests. If your old enough you would of been bitching about civil rights and Vietnam war protests too.
I'm shocked at all the election denialism I'm seeing. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
I want a way to see how my vote counted.
I don't trust the fact that 3rd party traitor supporters have had their hands on our voting machines.