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[–] [email protected] 193 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning ... so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while

Now it looks like it's all we'll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world ... such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He's likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That's on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he's likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I'm so so sorry.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Drill baby drill, frack baby frack".

Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.

This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.

This is what we're in for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

To be fair I explicitly remember Harris saying she heavily supported tracking in the debate. I think the US local pollution will increase much faster than the global pollution.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.

You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump's new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Good, maybe it'll end quickly then, rather than this long, drawn out, slow cooking...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hope you're wrong, this is fucking terrifying.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That ball started rolling in 2014 when we did fucking NOTHING in response to Russia annexing Crimea. Seriously, I consider that one moment to be Obama’s most catastrophic foreign policy failure.

And this is now why Ukraine has openly said they’re considering a crash nuclear weapons program - which they can do, because they had a lot of former Soviet personnel that operated and maintained Soviet nukes back in the day, and a lot of very fucking motivated and intelligent citizens who would absolutely love it if they could make Russia fuck off from their territory for good.

Nukes are the absolute final word in maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine would not be getting invaded now if they still had a few warheads stashed in a bunker being quietly maintained. But they signed the Budapest Memorandum, and gave them up in exchange for “security guarantees and assurances” which were ultimately thrown on the floor. Nobody will EVER make that deal again.

TL;DR: Nuclear proliferation is back with a vengeance, baby!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

We're gonna fucking blow ourselves off the face of the earth, all because a few dudes just couldn't stop trying to obtain power. How disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Heck they even were saying they want to nuke Mars. Oh wait, I mean lie about their reason for putting nukes in space

https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/499968-russian-space-chief-elon-musks-plan-to-bomb-mars-is-a-cover-to-put/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Cartels will have nukes shortly after smaller countries with weak or bribable security forces have them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.

Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.

We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, nothing will be done to stop him (till he's in a bunker if you catch my drift.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Funny that Musk supports "long-termism" and yet helped get Trump into office. A real face-eating leopards moment.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Long-term fate was sealed with this election.

Short-term profit year over year for the shareholders always wins.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Americans would rather bully the entire world than participate in it apparently. We're stuck with this now. The Republican party is back from the dead.