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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 54 minutes ago

This is kind of how Idiocracy starts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Looks like a lot of places followed along

[–] [email protected] 98 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

A message to my fellow guys: if you dislike this, guess what: it's real easy to stop being the target of it. All you have to do is quit being a misogynistic, authoritarian piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 hours ago

Yeah honestly as a guy I'm all for it. I absolutely do not blame women who do not want to have sex when they're treated like 2nd class citizens who's bodies are controlled by old, creepy men in Congress.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 13 hours ago

For real, it’s astounding(not really) how much women appreciate not being treated and viewed like they are things to be owned and controlled

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I understand the sentiment, but this is intrinsically self-defeating if at most one half of the female population participates while the other half if quickly drifting towards the trad-wife high birth rate shit.

It is just math.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't expect this to go anywhere, but wouldn't limiting the dating pool create a more competitive market for men?

If that is a good thing, that I don't know

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We are in the middle of a loneliness epidemic. For both women and men. Denying themselves companionship and love will only make people more miserable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Welp, another reason to stay away from the usa

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not just the US. It's mostly everywhere. It's a byproduct of the internet existing and so many people being addicted to it. It's a byproduct of people overworking themselves, working shit hours / nights so they cannot interact in a healthy way - without being literal zombies. It's a problem with the mental health crisis too - with the loneliness epidemic fueling it, and the mental health crisis fueling the loneliness epidemic. More people are scared of dating and getting hurt. More people are scared of commitment. People go nuts locked up alone in tiny boxes they call a home, don't know how to get out and don't want to risk inviting someone in. People got comfortable with how things are going for them, even if it's going completely shit. Then there are the dating app companies, whose entire gimmick is to get you hooked onto a monthly subscription. Which, aside from someone who is looking to hook up only, is about as counter to what they should be as possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, let's hope the place I live doesn't catch up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh for sure. Being alone most of one's life is torture for a lot of people. It changes them, often for worse. Humans are social creatures and it shows.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago

Sorry about the fucking idiots. Thanks for not fucking the idiots

[–] [email protected] 36 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Gen-X men got him elected. As a white man in his 40s, I’m disgusted. After moving out of the city, I just can’t converse with most of the white men my age. The majority of my friends are now younger than me or POC.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago (15 children)

It's my understanding that a lot of Gen-Z men backed Trump as well. Can't say I understand the appeal he has to the younger crowd.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago

Gen-X men got him elected.

Like all things Gen-X, there aren't enough of us for negative or positive change. In 2022 only 23% were Gen-X (down 3% from 2012), and assuming equal split on gender, that would be about 11.5% men, and I know for sure 100% of Gen-X men DID NOT vote for trump. For the sake of your argument lets say 70% of those men did thats only 8% of the vote. source

I don't think its a supportable statement to say that this specific 8% are the reason trump was elected without ignoring the other 45% of the electorate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a citation for this? Maybe it’s just the circles I run in, but I don’t know any gen-x men who voted for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

White people 45-64 accounted for 25% of the votes. 62% of them voted for Trump.

Men 45-64 was the leading demographic for age by gender at 60%.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Wild. I must really live in a bubble or something. Most Gen Xers I know were born in the 1970s and aren’t religious or Republican, and they actually vote. Maybe it’s because I don’t live in a rural area.

I do know a bunch of people born pre-1970 that probably voted Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago

If I were a cis woman, I also wouldn't want to risk pregnancy by being with a cis man. Certainly not in a country where being pregnant is increasingly more dangerous to one's life.

Also for my trans homies - remember that HRT is not birth control.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

More women voted for Harris, but there was still a giant number of women who voted for Trump. The women who voted for him won't do this and the women who didn't vote for him wouldn't have dated been who did anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You're really missing the point if you think this is about who a man voted for, and not about a woman not wanting to risk her life because any fuckwad stealthed her or even accidentally got her pregnant. Misogyny and sexual crimes do not follow party lines, they are pervasive throughout society, and the fewer choices women have, the more we will protect ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Hey, I'm completely on board with the fight. I 100% believe no one but the person and their doctor should be involved in any healthcare decisions, and I'm an advocate for women. I just think that this particular approach will accomplish nothing. The only people it will impact are the people who are already like-minded.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm all for women doing this, I'm just worried it'll literally be the beginning of Idiocracy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Idiocracy would be a significant upgrade from our current predicament.

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