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[–] [email protected] 165 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

As someone who plays the musical instrument called "trumpet", I ask- no, I beg of you, PLEASE do not use my musical instrument to describe fascists.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Huh I didn't even think of that lol, got any good alternatives for future memes?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I like MAGAt because it sounds like maggot

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

But... Maggots are useful?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And MAGAts are useful fools for Russia

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

And they can eat shit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Useful in quite limited scenarios besides as food for something else. Dependent on/creating rotting stuff. Disgusting to most people.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Personally I always go with either "Trump-supporter" or "Fascist", I think giving them a silly name ultimately only serves to dehumanize which doesnt help unless your goal is violence.

i will admit that calling them "weirdos" feels very cathartic for me, but tbh I think of most of the ones who aren't in power as just being really brainwashed, so it feels a little sad to resort to name calling. better to just do what you can to deprogram or cut ties and move on. sorry if that makes me kind of a stick in the mud for memes 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I thought the term was trumpanzee, but then I suppose that's insulting to chimps.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

MAGAT works better anyway since it sounds like maggot, and maggots are gross just like MAGATs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hey, I resemble part of that remark and resent the other part!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm fond of Magoo because they must be fucking blind to have not seen any of the news when Trump was running the show

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

if the instrument is that different to the politician why do they both tongue A minor but struggle to hit the double Ds consistently?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

My first thought as well. I like being a trumpeter and don't want that taken away

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I'm much more in favor of never using his name just for the sole reason that he loves to see his name everywhere. plus we already have a word for his supporters; it's hogs.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not joking, you should do this. Free their I'll minds from the poison.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Heh I may or may not have peeled off one "certain Trump vote" to a "Fuck it, not voting for anyone" so far

I've thought about rerouting their Internet through my network via VPN and pin my own HTTPS cert to their devices so I can alter Faux News "articles" on the fly with a ChatGPT integration maybe. Wouldn't be able to alter videos, but might be able to slow them down to dialup speeds so they just get frustrated with it and just lean more on the written stuff

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Those are some serious manipulation tactics... I like it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I don't particularly like it, but I'm just so tired of fighting against the constant trash they're being fed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish there was an easy way to do this for radio, best I can think of getting some AM transmitters and overriding the stations. But that would be annoying and the AM ones are hard to find.

Seriously AM talk radio is fucken cancer and needs to be fucking nuked from orbit. Its where my grandmother gets her stupidest ideas from and then I have to explain that no I am not doing that stupidly complex thing so you can have a 5 percent better car antenna.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A more powerful local transmission may be considered jamming. I’m not sure, so look up relevant law beforehand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

You can buy little FM transmitters for car use, and plenty of concerts use FM based speakers and a local FM transmitter. Its perfectly legal just would be real fucken annoying to jam on my side of things.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do one better: Get control of their internet network access and start straight DNS black-holing whole swaths of misinformation on the internet. Tell them you don't know what's wrong and to complain to the service provider.

You can do this easily with a Pi-Hole under the guise of it being an "ad blocker," and slowly, over time, making more sites unresponsive.

Make a Pi-Hole group for your own devices that doesn't have this blocking, so when they question you, you can show them your device and be like "it works for me."

It's kind of the modern equivalent of using parental controls to block FOX News.

For legal reasons, this is also a joke, because "now that's what I call gaslighting."

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Heh, I'll do ya one better, I already replied with this to someone else in the thread, but I'm currently thinking about rerouting their Internet through my network via VPN and pinning my own HTTPS cert to their devices so I can alter Faux News "articles" on the fly with a ChatGPT integration maybe. Wouldn't be able to alter videos, but might be able to slow them down to dialup speeds so they just get frustrated with it and just lean more on the written stuff

I figure this would be more effective than straight blocking

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Anyone interested in doing this should check out mitmproxy which is very handy for proxying/altering HTTPS streams

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True, because they can still access it, but it's garbled and/or confusing. Interesting idea.

so they just get frustrated with it and just lean more on the written stuff

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it. In my experience, most average people just don't like reading.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

True, but I know them very well so my approach is tailored to them, they generally do read "articles" but will get distracted by those stupid auto-play videos and will start watching a couple of those. If they couldn't for whatever reason I know they'll just go back to whatever article they were reading

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

If you figure out how to do this, I would love a how-to.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Won't work. The recommendation algorithms have been designed to maximize engagement. Anger is the most effective way to engage people, so they will always end up recommending far-right shit again.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

It's definitely annoying having to constantly correct "drift", but at the same time it's SO MUCH less mental load than the "traditional ways" of deprogramming. I'm hopeful that (eventually) with good precision filter keywords and blocked profiles they'll start to engage with more sensible content more and the algo will track from there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I sometimes forgot the far-right/q-anon movement is thanks to facebook and youtube algorithms.

Edit: oversimplification, I know

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My Boomer parents never used social media to begin with (unless forwarded chain emails count?). I did manage to get them to ditch cable TV and mindlessly vegetating on Fox News all day, but they still (unfathomably) prefer OTA TV to streaming so they're still in Sinclair's thrall. IDK what else to do at this point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Like old school antenna? Do they have one of those big roof top antennas? If so, you might be able to splice the line somewhere inconvenient and insert something that'll cause just enough interference to make it annoying over the better alternatives like streaming.

Gotta be careful though, OTA tv is their jam unlike all the other "high tech new fangled wizardry"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Believe it or not, "digital" rabbit ears (which are exactly the same as regular old-school ones, but with stupider marketing) on each TV.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's time to consider the possibility that our grandmas and pop-pops are not tricked or indoctrinated, they just plain old support fascists.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure there are some out there that are just straight fascists, but mine certainly were "indoctrinated"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Social networks are crazy. It's like they appeared and suddenly journalistic integrity does not matter anymore because your easily shaped feelings is equal to their fact.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't even get my own social media algorithms away from Trump bullshit.

[–] starman 1 points 3 weeks ago

Then don't use social media

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Hell I am german, left and filtering out by keywords and everywhere I go I get blasted with US election content... it's a scourge.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren't we supposed to be past censorship?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

He's literally doing the same thing the platform owners are, just in the other direction. Well, except for the blocking part (unless you count shadowbans), but you can just lower the rating score to very low, same thing.

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