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A lot of the things we do on a daily or weekly basis have ways of doing them that can either be private or communal, some of these which we do not think to consider as having that characteristic.

For example, bathing in the Roman Empire used to be communal, but then Rome fell and citizens in the splinter countries began taking baths privately.

Receiving mail is another example. There are countries which don’t have mailboxes and everyone gets their mail at the post office in the PO boxes. It was the United States which pioneered the idea of the modern mail system, which is why we associate it as a private act.

There are activities as well which don’t have any history as jumping between one or the other that might benefit from it, for example I think towns might benefit if internet was free and freely accessible but only at the local library.

What’s a non-communal aspect of life you think should be communal?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

We should be using neighbourhood food co-ops to purchase and distribute food from farmers and wholesalers rather than from retailers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

A co-op has been in the works in my town for the last few years and it’s finally about to open. I can’t wait

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Owning tools and equipment. I wish my neighborhood or town had a tool library.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Google your city name and “maker space” to see if there’s any near you. Not only does my local library district have them, there’s another local option with a monthly membership fee. They have large equipment like laser engravers, CNCs, drill presses, etc. They usually also have small stuff like drills that you can check out and bring home. Also a great way to meet other makers in your community

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I tried looking for something like this in the UK and it turns out the nearest one for me got shut down during COVID, the rest are all an hour or two away at least. It's a great idea but I guess it's unsustainable without some sort of external funding cause the local one was already running at a loss before 2020 according to their website.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

The public library has tools and such in a lot of places.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve seen those public bike repair racks with attached tools. I feel like that’s the closest thing to that we have

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

I always see those with the tools cut off. Feels bad :\

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

That's a real thing, there's one near me

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Re: internet only available at the public library.

Hell no. That would really fuck over disabled people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Plus, nobody needs to see the porn I watch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago

I mean, we could make that a communal activity too...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Yes, but some of us do, so give us the goods already

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That would mainly be because they can't easily get to the library, probably because your city is too low-density and car-dependant.

Once again, all problems are zoning problems in disguise.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Management and operations of any apartment buildings.

Make em all co ops.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

I think towns might benefit if internet was free and freely accessible but only at the local library.

Are you saying that private access to internet should be illegal?

Or that your libraries don't offer internet access to its patrons?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

If it's only available at one place, it's not freely accessible.

Logistically, how would that work? Libraries would have to be everywhere and they'd have to be massive. The IT infrastructure to support that would be immense. How would privacy work? Where could I go to have a private telehealth appointment, for example?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

... Why should private internet be banned or discouraged? What benefits would that being?

It's a bit of a cop out, but maybe talking about and dealing with feelings. At best people usually only talk privately with a professional for money. Normalise just having regular group therapy for everyone that they can just drop in and out of.

Or if we want to really push boundaries: Orgies and kink parties. Sex is a natural part of life, no need to keep it secret.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that something like a public orgy would be a good idea, not because of "morals" (I tend to think modern society is far too repressed about sexual stuff), but because of the health implications that would come of encouraging sexual contact between large groups of strangers. That sounds like a recipe for STI spread unless you were very strict and thorough with testing, vetting participants, and enforcing protective measures, which inevitably not every instance would be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

However, if talking and partaking in sexual acts is less stigmatised, people will hopefully feel a lot more comfortable about getting tested and talking about it.

And honestly, if it does turn out to be that big a problem, vetting and requiring regular testing seems a reasonable thing to require before people are allowed in.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Clothes being optional

Im not saying we should be nude all the time. Clothes have their purpose.I think we should have the option to be nude in public, without making it sexual

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Nude beaches are nice places for exactly this reason. It's like everyone tacitly agrees not to give a shit.

You can walk past people with your balls waving in the breeze and nobody even blinks - and more importantly, someone can walk past you with their tits akimbo and you don't even blink. It's not sexual, it's not even interesting, it has no significance here. It's like seeing someone breastfeeding: yes, boobs are still great, but we're not doing that right now.

And that's just a really nice headspace to be in. All of the unconscious monkey-politics games just go away, you don't have to think of people in those terms, or concern yourself with where you stand relative to them, because we're just not doing that.

Oh no, you'll see unattractive naked people! Yep, most of them in fact. And honestly that's kind of awesome. 85yo woman pottering around living her best life stark naked and not giving one single shit: you go girl. Fuck yeah. You know how people say they look forward to being old enough to just not give a fuck any more? You can have that yourself right now, right here, for free.

It's funny, walking past clothed beaches afterwards, you realise just how sexualised many swimsuits really are. A bunch of naked people are honestly about as glamorous and exciting as a pile of dead sheep; fashion designers do one hell of a job creating drama and hype around it all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Most places in the US legally allow nudity, with the main barrier being people calling the police and making a big deal out of doing something legal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

What? I don’t think this is true.

Many places allow toplessness but very few allow full nudity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

It isn't about allowing. It is about not prohibiting.

Most places haven't prohibited nudity because most people don't choose to be nude.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

In my area, you can be nude on private property as long as a neighbor has to make an effort to see you. My back yard allows it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm with it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

transportation, natch

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

are there actually places where the public library doesn't already offer free internet access?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This is very close to your mail example but can we please move on from delivering items directly to houses? Just give me a destribution center or box at a 10-15 min walking distance and I'll gladly pick up everything from there when it's actually convenient. We can still keep the other model for special cases.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

"special cases" being everyone who doesn't live in a town? I'm lucky in that my village post office hasn't been shut down, but I'd still have to drive to collect my post every day. It's much more efficient that a single vehicle delivers post to hundreds of houses.

Maybe it makes sense in urban areas for able-bodied people. Still a drag to have to walk there every day when you don't even know if you've got post because something important might have arrived.

Sorry, I didn't mean to poop on your idea so much, it is a genuinely interesting idea, I just don't think it works with the way society is currently set up in my country

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Or disabled.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

So they just need to build a post office closer to you

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