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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if its under GPL couldn't they be forced to disclose the source code?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Only if they made modifications

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What, where do you get that? Any publicly conveyed copies of gpl-licensed software must make their source code available, and be published under the same license. This is true regardless of modifications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

I could be wrong and I'm more then welcome to being proven that. But wouldn't this be like asking me to redistribute the whole process of running ZSNES on linux? Seems pretty infeasible.

[–] [email protected] 245 points 1 day ago (30 children)

You see...

It's okay when THEY do it.

It's not okay when YOU do it.

That's how they function.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well yeah, as the owners they have the exclusive right to determine what's okay. They're just following the rules as they've been laid out by centuries of corporate lobbying for more exploitable copyright laws. Those are what we need to focus on if we want more fair use of intellectual property that the rights holder has already sufficiently profited from - the thing that such protections were initially meant to ensure to a much more reasonable extent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They aren't the owners of most of the games though, did they ask, in writing, all of the rightsholders for the games they made?

Did they ask the artists if it was ok to re-use their work in a 'new title'? (according to Nintendo, emulation is transformative)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You had me in the first half ngl (more like first sentence but close enough)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they DO have the exclusive right. People want to be told the world is different - that it's better - but if we want to change it we need to see it for what it is. If we say "They don't have the right!" before we've done the work necessary to strip them of the right, then we'll never even understand how to start fixing this broken system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I completely agree with that take, I was just making a joke about how the first sentence reads like the start of a comment that's about to defend Nintendo

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Well, you know, the games are theirs to begin with.

I see what you mean, and you are correct, but I think it's more about the games that are being emulated than emulation in itself right?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It would be, if they didn't target the emulators and only targeted the roms/game data.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would not be at all surprised if the Switch NES and SNES emulators are running an open source emulator that they've tried to shut down.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Throwback to the NES Classic ROM having a ripper/uploader’s signature in the game code. Because Nintendo didn’t ever bother archiving their own games, and just downloaded ROMs from the same sites they were trying to shut down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would. They would have been found out already if it were the case, and they already proved they can develop their own emulators.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They've been caught using ROMs downloaded from some ROMs download website, so it wouldn't be that surprising.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nintendo: Emulation is illegal, criminal, and you should never ever do it. If you do, we will sue your ass, send the Pinks, and then shit fury on you!!!

Also Nintendo:


Needless to say, I will not be buying an alarm clock today.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not at all Nintendo's philosophy.

They literally included emulation starting with the wii

So it is more of a rules for thee but not for me situation. Not you should never ever do it but you should only do it on our hardware with our emulators

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I mean, their position is that they as the rights holders can republish how they please, but that buying a cartridge does not give you license to play on other devices. You can disagree with them on legal or philosophical grounds but their position isn't really inconsistent.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I can see Nintendo shutting down his own museum for piratery.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

ITT: people think emulators are only the ones you can download

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they own it. I thought even I could download a ROM if I have the actual game no?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

No, at least in the US, you can only back up your own ROM if you own the game, not download someone else's backup. The real problem here is that Nintendo's (idiotic) stance is ALL emulation/backups are piracy and here they are being hypocrites about it.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I mean...

All of those mini consoles (NES mini, SNES mini) are already SOCs with an emulator.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Corps are shameless. No amount of hypocrisy is enough to make them reconsider their evil.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

I was joking when in a previous post about the museum I said it better not run on any emulators..

So.. Why aren't they selling said emulators and roms? I ain't gonna travel half the world to play one in an overpriced museum.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe the emulator maker should sue

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