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Twitter Acts Fast on Nonconsensual Nudity If It Thinks It’s a Copyright Violation (www.404media.co)

submitted 2 weeks ago by 0x0 to c/[email protected]

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Twitter will remove nonconsensual nude images within hours as long as that media is reported for having violated someone’s copyright. If the same content is reported just as nonconsensual intimate media, Twitter will not remove it within weeks, and might never remove it at all, according to a pre-print study from researchers at the University of Michigan.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In other words, twatter is probably gonna pull the bullshit where they do business as usual and do nothing until police or any government goes after them.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

that's how all corporations act

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

the structure of corporate law is systematically directed towards this behavior

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

Nonconsensual nudity only hurts people.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone needs to cook up a bot that flags every post on Twitter, Facebook, or reddit with a DCMA takedown.

[–] 0x0 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not unheard of...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Paywalled.

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Nah I’m good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goes away with js disabled. Rest of page works fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even with JavaScript disabled, I’m only seeing the first paragraph of the article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's opening full for me. Probably geo paywalled..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

"Can someone with money sue me? No? Oh they can fuck off then."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Shocked! That the guy who owns Twitter isn't making this a priority.

Wait, it all makes sense when the owner, Elon Musk makes a tone deaf joke about impregnating Taylor Swift.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This confirms my theory that Elon is such a cheapass. He won't pay for porn, but he'll jack it to whatever's in the S3 folder. Regardless of how it got there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is probably because either 1) they're afraid of lawsuits or 2) they have a better system for handling copyrighted materials than nonconsensual porn.

So I'm a bit curious, is this new under Elon Musk, or was this always an issue?

[+] [email protected] -16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It sucks that this is the mechanism we have to use for this but a person's likeness is their own copyright and posting images of someone without permission could be seen as copyright infringement. Granted this also opens a lot of doors to just completely eliminating almost all images from the internet, like imagine going to a tourist destination and having to get permission from anyone who might be in your overdone posed tourist photo.

Edit: Since some of yall are dense motherfuckers and/or just arguing in bad faith, I'm pointing out how going using copyright as the enforcement mechanism opens the door for these already flawed copyright systems to be heavily abused even further. I'm specifically pointing to Right of Publicity, where your likeness is protected from commercial use unless you give permission to post. It's why any show or movie that's filmed in a public place blurs people out if they haven't gotten signed release forms from anyone who appears on camera.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

so if Im getting this correct, because zuckerburg runs ads, you can claim the usage is always commercial therefore always subject to copyright control. if you want nudity taken down, you must use (and in the process normalize) this easly abusable loophole that contains absolutely no safeguards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying using copyright enforcement systems as the workaround to getting non-consenusal nudes taken down from a website is putting even more burden onto already heavily abused systems. That doesn't have anything to do with the Zucc running ads, it's because copyright enforcement systems don't work very well to begin with and are very easily abused by bad actors. It's not the right tool for the job, and it would be much better to have something specifically dedicated to getting the non-consensual publishing of nude images taken down instead of some bubblegum and twine hack of a solution through copyright enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh. so you are saying they use need to use copyright enforcement tools irreguardless of if it is a valid takedown according to copyright law. NOT that they are trying to invent a legal reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's no copyright involved in taking a picture of someone, or having a picture of someone... Your tourist pictures are fine. If you publicize then or try selling them, that might be an issue, but making it inconvenient for people to make money off of non-permission photos isn't really concerning to most people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

https://www.copyright.gov/what-is-copyright/

Read up on how exactly copyright works, as soon as you fix a work in a tangible and communicable form, you have a copyright to it. Taking a nude photo of yourself gives you the exclusove copyright of that photo. Taking a tourist photo does give you copyright to that specific photo, but also doesn't necessarily supercede another existing copyright if that photo is of something else that already had a copyright.

And depending on jurisdictions, your tourist photos might not be fine. For example, in France, they have very strict privacy laws and copyright enforcement, the Eiffel Tower might be public domain, but the light installation is still under copyright. And any modern buildings designed by an architect who died within the last 70 years is still protected by copyright. And on the privacy front, accidentally taking pictures of other people even in tourist areas could actually open you up to a lawsuit, but nobody's actually tried that yet so it's up in the air whether it would hold up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My guy, you seriously aren't pretending that clothed people in the background of a photo is the same as pictures of someone naked taken or posted without their consent, right?

Just ignoring the core context?

Come on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not making a comparison between the two, I'm pointing out how resolving posting non-consensual nudes of someone through copyright systems could be abused in other instances. I'm also not saying there shouldn't be a system for having non-consensual nudes taken down, we absolutely should, but it needs to be a system dedicated to taking down non-consensual images, not a patchwork workaround using copyright.