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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3613920

https://archive.ph/tR7s6

Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

"But I still want to get paid for it."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Stupid tardigrade doesn't even know how to play a violin

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

He’s doing his best!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good thing it's got a cello then.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Stupid human doesn't even know what a violin looks like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

NGL, I am pretty tired and have my glasses off, thought he was holding a sword and shield and thought this was pretty cool.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's not "famous" that should be in inverted commas, but "artist".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We call those quotation marks.

But yes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who is we? The global pedant society?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The English language? I have never heard the phrase "inverted commas."

But as to your point: "Both? Both is good."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Ah, the usual case of English and American being two entirely different languages despite pretending otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok so I apologise for my earlier snarky reaction but I felt zahille7's response was somewhat condescending. Particularly since it is terminology recognised by three major English dictionaries, one of which is widely regarded as the leading authority on the English language... https://www.oed.com/dictionary/inverted-comma_n?tl=true https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/inverted-commas https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/inverted-commas

... So just because you have never heard of something, doesn't give you licence to be rude to someone or talk down to them as if they are stupid for their choice of phrasing. Or maybe it just means you aren't British...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Nailed it on the last one. I was going to say, you can probably thank the American education system if it's common enough to be recognized by dictionaries like those. And Zahille7 is probably American, too, which caused the snarky comment in the first place.

Just the usual case of English being a crazy language that ruffles through other languages' coat pockets looking for loose adverbs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aren't inverted commas also a phrase for that? Or is that the joke.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah. It's from the old printing press times when they used the same pieces of type for commas and quote marks, just rotated 360 degrees.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Ha! Not the onion was made for this headline!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ChatGPT, show me the world's tiniest violin playing "No One Gives a Fuck" in A minor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I wish that was true for minors 😔

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

per Wikipedia

On September 21, 2022, Allen submitted an application to the us copyright office for registration of the image. Prior to the first formal refusal, the Copyright Office Examiner requested that the request would exclude any features of the image generated by Midjourney. Allen declined the request and requested copyright for the whole image.

So what I'm getting from that is his Photoshop edits aren't significant enough to constitute a copyrightable work on their own and the copyright office was right to deem it a non-human production.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm just happy someone at the copyright office knows what they're doing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This has been the copyright office's stance for quite a while now. Actually, most of the world's respective IP registrars and authorities do not grant IP rights to AI generated material.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Get a real job

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm hoping someone with actual talent paints the AI picture and then copyrights it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think someone painting a physically copy of the image will gain ownership of the copyright.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed.

Get fucked, you no talent ass clown.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

He's really good at writing words about his on-stolen-content-based generated image, you got to give him that.

But no, fuck copyrighting AI content, that's a dead channel from a copyright perspective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

eat shit dude

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This article is annoyingly one-sided. The tool performs an act of synthesis just like an art student looking at a bunch of art might. Sure, like an art student, it could copy someone's style or even an exact image if asked (though those asking may be better served by torrent sites). But that's not how most people use these tools. People create novel things with these tools and should be protected under the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (10 children)

It’s deterministic. I can exactly duplicate your “art” by typing in the same sentence. You’re not creative, you’re just playing with toys.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The tool performs an act of synthesis just like an art student looking at a bunch of art might.

Lol, no. A student still incorporates their own personality in their work. Art by humans always communicates something. LLMs can't communicate.

People create novel things with these tools and should be protected under the law.

I thought it's "the tool" the "performs an act of synthesis". Do people create things, or the LLM?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

No no, he created the prompt. That's the artistic value /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

the machine learning model creates the picture, and does have a "style", the "style" has been at least partially removed from most commercial models but still exist.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is that the AI is the artist, not the prompter. The AI is performing the labor of creating the work, at the request of the prompter, like the hypothetical art student you mentioned did, and the prompter is not the creator any more than I would be if I kindly asked an art student to paint me a picture.

In which case, the AI is the thing that gets the authorial credit, not the prompter. And since AI is not a person, anything it authors cannot be subjected to copyright, just like when that monkey took a selfie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (8 children)

It should be as copyrightable as the prompt. If the prompt is something super generic, then there's no real work done by the human. If the prompt is as long and unique as other copyrightable writing (which includes short works like poems) then why shouldn't it be copyrightable?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Think he'll try to use a llm as his lawyer?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (28 children)

I like the comment that said the AI is the artist and he's just a commissioner, makes perfect sense.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

He needs to take a photograph of it and then copyright the photograph. Easy!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure there's a misspelling. It's spelled "douchebag" not "artist".

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