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Any source that YouTube is the reason that Edge switched to chromium?

I'm betting it's just cheaper and easier than making their own engine.

Please, please do act on google too. Didn't knew about YT thing, but god I loved Spartan Edge. It was soo...resource unintensive. It...simply did it job, was quick, low resource, looked good... :( I switched to it from chrome and then it became chrome.

IIRC Samsung devices default to a Samsung web browser labelled "Internet". You wouldn't want to disable the "Internet", right?

iOS seems even more egregious, where it's internally using Safari no matter what browser you install, giving the illusion of choice.

The google widget search bar is the thing I hate the most on default Android ui, alongside stupid bixby. Like the windows search bar, it doesn't look good, always stays there and isn't actually useful since you can still search with sometimes one click sometimes two. And the results are horribles with filled MSN-like news

And some linux distros bcs somtimes it's preloaded with firefox and chromium and also macos with safari

Fuck, this. My gf doesn't even know what a "web page" is, she just knows this Google widget.

Take your upvote and gtfo. Lol

I can think of some options

Level 1: Allow uninstall of edge. They can have the engine still for store/background processes, but no user icon. You can use edge to install other browsers then remove it.

Level 2: same as level one, but it comes "uninstalled". OOBE asks you to choose a browser.

Level 3: They rip out the deep integration they knew damn well they shouldn't have done because their asses were handed to them in the IE days.

Click 'browse web' Microsoft gives a list of popular and mixed browsers that the user can select. Microsoft then installs selected browser. At least this is the only tangible way I can see.

One solution could be during PC initial setup, a list of all browsers above a certain user count is given and the person chooses which to install and use as default with the ability to change at a later date.

Please submit a third copy of that letter, but replace Windows with iOS, PC with iPhone, Microsoft with Apple, and Edge with Safari.

Invoke-WebRequest

To comply with the court decision, Microsoft have added a super easy to use PowerShell command to install your favourite browser!

ps> Get-Browser-That-Isnt-Microsoft-Edge -Q -Browser Firefox -NumberOfNags 0 -RevertAfterUpdate False -When Now -Why BecauseTheCourtsToldUsWeNeededTo

IMO edge coming pre-installed isn’t a big deal. But I’d like to be able to uninstall edge and not have Windows periodically try to trick me into setting edge as my default browser again.

For a while when you installed Windows, the first time user setup gave you a choice of popular browsers and it handled the download and install.

Now Microsoft is actively trying to sabotage other browsers with popups and office apps bypassing the default browser setting.

The issue isn't how it's built or based on its that Microsoft can use its control of the os to make it extremely difficult to avoid it.

Forget mac, it's even worse on iOS/iPadOS, where all third-party browsers must use Safari's rendering engine too.

The issue is with how aggressive Microsoft is about it.

Trying to download chrome? "Hey, are you sure you don't want to try Edge?".
Changing default browser? "Hey, are you sure you don't want to try Edge?".
Windows update... "We've done you a solid, because we know you want to use Edge".
I'm sure at one point, it was a warning in the security center that you aren't using Edge.
Also Teams (in sure there are others) will open links in Edge, despite what default browser you have set.

An out of the box OS should include a browser. Microsoft takes a ham-fisted approach, however, Apple makes it entirely possible to uninstall Safari. You do have to jump through the hoop of disabling System Integrity Protection to remove it, but it's simple as trashing the app and deleting the data. I speak from experience. Very easy to do.