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[–] [email protected] 145 points 2 months ago (1 children)

~~Ask~~Reddit is over run by bots.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (21 children)

It's still okay for niche communities, and that's probably why people still go there

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (10 children)

This for sure. It's something severely lacking at Lemmy, without the large user base the small communities can't sustain the way they do on Reddit. Lemmy serves best as a replacement for the biggest subs.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Using this low of a contrast (dark red on dark background) is criminal. Maybe my eyes are just that bad but good lord those notes are hard to read

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This just proves that OP is not a bot, he is a dumb human like us

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not even mine, I put the source in the post.

But I agree with the poor colour choice

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

After this comment I am exactly 27.3% more suspicious of OP being a bot after all.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. Bots can read text equally well on any colour. This might prove he is a bot.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Gather round, children, and let me tell you a story of the same type of mindless corporate stupidity that happened in my state, about how something successful was ruined because all they could see was at the surface level...

When the mini-market chain AM/PM opened some stores in Baja California, they came up with a hybrid concept that also included a made-to-order fast food kitchen serving burgers, and a sizable seating area, they called this Dave's Kitchen. It was a huge, huge hit.

Enter 7-11 into the scene. Getting wind of this new phenomenon and armed with corporate cash from their Mexico offices in... Monterrey I think it was... they bought every AM/PM in the state and converted them to 7-11s, surely salivating at the prospect of this large client base that was supposedly built-in with their acquisition.

So what was the first thing they did?
They shuttered Dave's Kitchen. Poof... gone!
They got rid of the soda machine, the ice cream machine... instead of assimilating the business model of what they had bought, they got rid of everything that made these AM/PMs unique in the market, replaced it with their own bland and generic way of doing things according to the home office in Monterrey.

Within a month, the new 7-11s had lost around 3/4 of their customers. Their emergency response was to send in a squad of corporate poll takers to pester the customers still there and see... why the other ones had gone, I guess?

Asking the wrong questions (why did the customers leave in droves?) to the wrong people (the few remaining clients who didn't leave). And thus, nothing of value was learned, because when your corporate business school suits are clumsy unthinking hammers, every situation and problem look like a goddamned nail.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gather round children; as I tell you the story of Georgie Pie, it offered cheap local (to NZ) fast food, in this case meat and sweet pies.

Highly successful and well loved, it was a common sight across the country. Unfortunately, the corporate entities from off shore came in, diluting the fast food dollar across many more options. MacDonald's brought the struggling Georgie Pie; mainly for its locations and to remove a competitor from the market.

Every few years; to maintain the trade mark, MacDonald's runs a Georgie Pie promotion where you can get a pie from MacDonald's. It is like the zombie of local "cuisine" reanimated over and over again to server its master; for the only job it is good for.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Perhaps they realized it would be cheaper to stop the growth of a superior product. Especially when that superior product would likely require more types of costs that would eat corporate level profit. More higher paid employees that can't be mechanized.

Status quo is incredibly profitable, assuming nothing threatens it. That's why big business does everything they can to increase the barrier of entry, and happily overpays to buy out successful competitors, with the leadership of the competitors having enforceable noncompetes for the model.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

AM/PM honestly sounds like what the Sheetz chain does these days in a lot of ways.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

News flash: it’s not just ask Reddit. It’s Reddit entirely. That place is a shithole of bots.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only good answers I find to things are 3+ years old.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah. That or niche subreddits that just aren’t popular enough to warrant bots. Like specific game communities. But even some of the big ones are full of bots.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago

Ok this red on black contrast is awful on the eyes.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I look forward to meeting my undeleted zombie Reddit account one day. I'm picturing it like Shaun and Ed at the end of Shaun of the Dead.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's remarkable, the questions that aren't from bots are completely indistinguishable.
It's all low quality engagement bait, and all these questions were on the front page of askreddit a hundred times with slight variations.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

They're indistinguishable because they're copied from top-voted posts that are a few years old (title, text, and image if applicable). It's guaranteed to produce a post that fits the community and gets a lot of engagement, so it's a cheap and effective way to mature a bot account. Once you start looking for it, it's everywhere, and Reddit admins don't care.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Have you ever noticed those low effort reposts also getting the same top 10 comments as the original? It's slop all the way down.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

how are people so bad with colors

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

Pissing off all their best users sure was a fantastic idea.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I've never understood what anyone gets out of hosting and spamming reddit with bots

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Selling accounts with high karma to people wanting to push an agenda with a seemingly legit account

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Conspiracy hat on:

It's done by Reddit themselves. They know user visits are dropping. They know power users have slipped. To avoid making it look like a desert, they have bots create content.

Reddit's origin story is sockpuppeting as users.

They'll do it again

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Mature accounts with some activity are worth money to people looking to AstroTurf political discussions.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

If reddit hadn't locked their API behind absurd paywalls, it would have been a cool project to try to make a browser plugin that gives accounts a "credit score" based on the factors you've been looking at, in order to let users quickly judge how likely an account is a bot.

It could let people adjust the metrics it uses to calculate that score in the settings, so even if it becomes popular enough for bots to start trying to game the system, people can adapt their scoring metrics themselves and share config profiles that they think are more effective at rating bots.

Might be something cool to see for activitypub/fediverse/lemmy accounts, but with the data available varying by instance it might be a little harder to calibrate a "catch-all" scoring config

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (8 children)

A lot of the site feels like it’s been overrun by bots. The more niche communities seem to still be pretty good (and I do still enjoy engaging in them). But the subs like ask Reddit, Aita and the relationships one? Yea, it all feels like bs.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

remember when they banned bots on r/mademesmile or something and there were no posts anymore?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why is this a JPEG. I barely can read that text in red.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe your client? Renders clear and legible for me

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I used to call out bots sometimes about 2-3 years ago and I can tell you it already was like this. The only difference is the addition of AI, but early bot networks just used Google translate back and forth to copy entire old posts without being noticed.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Askreddit was a scummy Karma farm already. This still sucks, though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The worst part is that they're all really fucking bland questions. The shit you'd see on Facebook.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

What's your favorite Iron Man scene from any of the Marvel Movies?

Fun thing to do is when you realize 99% of the internet is just advertising teams working for these rich fucking A hole's, is you make them work for their money but posting things that PR companies would hate. Just culture jam the hell out of the dead internet. Its the only way to be. Its what makes places like r/joerogan and r/thefighterandthekid so much fun.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Why isn’t lemmy taken over with bots yet? Is it just a matter of time?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

Everyone on lemmy is a bot except you.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

There's currently (*comparatively) no money to be made with bots given Lemmy's comparatively small size, I'd wager. Bots on Reddit are used to advertise and to push companies' agendas. Lemmy's too small for that

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We have a bot problem, but we also have admins/ mods that don't want to bloat their numbers with bots (mostly). The fediverse helps us hold each other accountable, and if any community is full of bots, you defedirate them. I don't mind the auto posters that seed content. I like the OSRS update bot, etc...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Oh fuck I blew my cover

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My guess is we're still too small and niche to be a tempting target.

I think the federated nature of lemmy will make it an easy target when it does come along though.

Disclaimer: I don't really know what I'm talking about.

Edit: Spelling

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, AskReddit went to shit a while ago. It used to be my favourite subreddit, but it changed about 5 years ago I think.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Reddit is a cesspool.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

can i get more schadenfreude on this 🍿. its delicious

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