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Personally, I don't* but I was curious what others think.

^*^some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Which means that it might be, depending on the sandwich. For example, you cook a panini or grilled cheese.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What about using my George Foreman grill?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

What matters is the loaf. Use the upper cut

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago

If you cook it, like a grilled cheese, then yes. Otherwise, it’s sandwich arts.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Cooking (in the English I was taught) involves the application of heat - frying, baking, roasting, boiling etc are the names for specific ways to do this. A sandwich would be made or prepared.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Some go as far as saying cooking requires a chemical change, else youre just heating

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Yeah - an application of heat to create a chemical change. You’re correct there. My answer was incomplete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Just for the heck of it, if you heat protein enough to denature it but have no Maillard reaction (let's say you've just made a hard boiled egg), would that not be considered cooking by that definition?

My understanding is that denaturing is a physical structure change, not a chemical one (and according to Wikipedia can be reversible in some cases), not a biochemist or food scientist though so totally accepting that my understanding is incorrect/incomplete.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

The question is inadequatly phrased. You must describe what kind of sandwich we are speaking of. Unless op is speaking about cold sandwiches exclusively, many sandwiches require cooking.

Croque Monsieur

Grilled Cheese

Cubano

Monte Cristo

Panini

These are just a few that I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nope. In English, if it doesn't involve the application of heat, you ain't cooking, you're preparing, making, or other terminology.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So toasting a sammich is cooking, but making the sammich isn't?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Pretty much, yeah. Same as grilling a burger and putting it on bread is cooking despite the bread being pre-made.

Afaik, cooking isn't limited to applying heat to raw foods.

Might be worth saying that I don't remember which dictionary the definition came from, and that dictionaries only record language, they don't prevent changes over time. Which means that usage could have changed enough since the last time I looked at any, and now have a different usage added

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't think it's cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The acid from the lime is doing the cooking in ceviche.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

I agree - and it specifically isn't doing so through an application of heat.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (6 children)

gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think of a chef as a "preparer of food" not necessarily "food cooker"

So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

They still have to cook the rice.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Lol whoops. I'm leaving it.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, it's food preparation but nothing is being cooked.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The specific language you speak has significant impact here. For some, "to make food* is used to refer to cooking. Where as in English it's not so clear. I prefer the use in terms of survival. IMO, if you can make any food enough to survive you can cook, because in English there is not a better colloquial verb. Though i wouldn't call you 'a cook' or 'a chef' if you can't apply heat to produce edible food from raw.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The word cooking, to me, means using heat with a stove. Baking is for the oven. Grilling, is outside on a grill. But a sandwich is only ever "made" in my house. "Will you make me a sandwich?", "I'm making a sandwich"

Good question though. Never thought about it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO, assembling a sandwich from ready-to-eat ingredients without using a stove, oven, microwave, etc. is meal prep, not cooking. If you roast, saute, toast, smoke, or even zap any part of it, now you're cookin'. (Though zapping might just be reheating something that was cooked previously. Ugh, this is more complicated than it should be. English can be frustrating.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally I'd define cooking as something that creates an irreversible physical or chemical change using heat.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No one ever says "I'm cooking a sandwich"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on the sandwich. If you're constructing a sandwich without using heat, I would consider that "making lunch" or "making dinner" but not explicitly cooking. I'm not sure that the difference matters in any significant situations, though. Why are you asking?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are you asking?

Boredom.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I guess that it depends on context? Typically I wouldn't call it cooking, as it doesn't involve applying heat to the food. But if I were to teach a kid how to cook, then I'd consider it cooking - as teaching them how to prepare a sandwich would be a good start.

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