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Teen girl sues Detroit judge who detained her after she fell asleep in courtroom (www.freep.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The teen girl without a permanent home who was forced to don jail garb, wear handcuffs and ask for mercy after falling asleep in a courtroom is suing the Detroit judge who had her taken into custody.

Eva Goodman, 15, and her mother filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Michigan against 36th District Judge Kenneth King. They allege he violated the teen's civil rights, arguing King acted outside the scope of his judicial authority when he detained her, yelled at her and threatened her with jail time.

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[–] [email protected] 323 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That judge should clearly have been removed from the bench, instead of just being asked to attend some sort of behavior class with pay. The usual slap on the wrist with a feather for the privileged.
He clearly lacks a sense of scope, and limitation to his powers. And apparently has extreme views on punishment for nothing burgers that aren't even illegal. He also has a complete lack of empathy and understanding how strongly punishment can influence a person, especially a young person, and especially a person being punished harshly despite doing no harm.
He is completely unfit to be a judge.

I hope the girl wins her lawsuit, and the judge will receive some true punishment through that.

[–] [email protected] 242 points 2 months ago (1 children)

... and his past cases need to be reviewed. Is someone serving 10x the usual jail sentence for some infraction because of this judge? Probably.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whenever I hear about a shitty judge, DA, or cop that’s where my mind jumps immediately. Once one of these people have their judgment or integrity called into question, every case they had any involvement in should also be questioned.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Fuck that would be nice to have a review department who's sole purpose is to go over the past history once something is triggered like this. Could even supply it by not buying so many hand-me-downs from the military to further fuel the MIC (military industrial complex), which I've never once heard a conservative discussion bringing up the cost/effectiveness of a tank in a small county. I guess a better tag-line would've been "Funds for Justice" during the protests.

[–] [email protected] 226 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Donald Trump fell asleep in his own trial, nothing

Teen girl fell asleep as an observer in a trial, jail

[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 months ago (2 children)

she was asleep while black though

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago

And poor. And homeless. Definitely a menace to society.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

isn't the judge African American, too ?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

that doesn't change much. black cops also can be racist against black people. they're part of a racist structure.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Some of the most virulently racist people I've met have been African American. Even against other African Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

There wasn't even a trial going on it was just a field trip.

[–] [email protected] 211 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She was on a field trip and not scheduled to be in court. He just reached out into the crowd and just sent her to jail because his feelings were hurt.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 months ago

Judges are always soft bitches when people don't treat them better than the average person for wearing fucking bathrobes in public.

Guess what judges, you're a naked loser underneath those robes, just like the rest of us, you sad soft pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 193 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This girl is also temporarily homeless, which is why she was so tired. Adds a whole extra level to this...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well this lawsuit should help her get hers back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Let there be justice

[–] [email protected] 183 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From one of the linked articles:

"Eva Goodman, 15, attended King's court earlier this week with a nonprofit on a field trip."

I'm guessing that non-profit is done exposing kids to courtrooms now even as simple observers.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Let's learn how the justice system works in the US!"

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If that judge is so concerned about her sleep then he can buy her a house. She'll sleep much better having a bedroom.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh he will

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean we will, right? I'm sure he's protected the same way cops are so taxes will be used to pay for judge's mistakes while he continues to be a piece of shit without any repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

If you don't like paying for the mistakes of law enforcement, legislate punishment on law enforcement that makes mistakes!

When it's a judge you have to vote them out (usually), and since they were voted in you have to punish the taxpayer for making such a boneheaded mistake.

It's a taxpayer votes in this chuckle fucker again and maybe we need to punish them that much harder.

The government has the money to spare otherwise they would stop fucking up so goddamn always.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But he already offered to "Mentor" her personally while being interviewed after the incident, what more do you want from this guy?! /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Ew.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 2 months ago

Previously:

https://wsvn.com/news/us-world/just-awful-mom-of-teen-who-was-placed-in-handcuffs-by-detroit-judge-on-field-trip-breaks-silence/

King said he reached out to the family to help mentor Goodman, the family says they’re not interested.

This guy is so bad at damage control it's hilarious.

Fuck him, I'm glad they're going all in on this loser fuck.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Small men try to take respect by force instead of earning it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's why you always listen to Daddy-Tang:

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

This summarised so perfectly because his word really just amount to this.

[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But... But he also offered to mentor her. He said it in a really creepy tone.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"HI I've shown terrible reasoning and judgment skills, let me teach you about the world."

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago

Sounds like grooming to me.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm glad she is suing him. It was insane how he doubled down on his actions. There are too many Judges who either racist or insane assholes without any empathy.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Those officers should be fired, too. I do security for a living, and I would 100% have not detained her.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’re held to a higher standard than most cops, I assure you.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

So are pizza delivery drivers. And dog groomers. And cashier's. And....

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You do security, you're not a cop. Totally different mindset, don't compare yourself to pigs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

don't compare yourself to pigs.

In a good way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And you would've 100% lost your job in the lovely free market of the US. I'm not sure what the laws surrounding 'contempt' are in the US, but I'd guess that's what he's charged her with and it's a pretty grey area, so you as a court room bailiff, are not going to be 'investigating' and taking moral stands at work, she likely was the 10th person they've arrested and half of them don't even know why the were radioed to come in and 'assist with an arrest'

The judge is a straight cunt though

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago

This a-hole judge should be removed from the bench and fired for this. Or at least forced to undergo the same treatment.

Has this judge even been to court before? If you're not there to sue or be sued(or tried) or to watch someone for a specific reason, then court is boring as hell. Instead of punishing someone who fell asleep, congratulate those who stayed awake - that's far more worthy of notice.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it's time for judges to get a fucking wakeup call. the amount of authority they have in a courtroom feels like the leftover vestiges of the English monarchy that are supposed to technically exist but not actually be exercised

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They need to be reminded that their authority is a thinly veiled concession. We make toward public order and if they forget and start to think it's about them and "their honour" then they need to feel the savage fury commensurate with unseen suffering they hand out on the daily.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Court when rich white guy sleeps: he's just tried, no big deal

Court when young black women sleeps: ARREST THAT MFR

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

I mean, good for her honestly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't think they'll pierce his immunity with this one sadly. Judges get absolute immunity that's very hard to bypass vs executive branch officer qualified immunity.

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