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[–] [email protected] 148 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Everyone I know who has went on a cruise has told me the same thing: you will be propositioned by swingers.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

What if you can't pass rule 1: be attractive and rule 2: don't be unattractive?

Edit: Asking for a friend.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You will not be propositioned by swingers.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But I’ve never been propositioned by swingers on a cruise….wait a minute….

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hi, excuse me. Hello, yes, hi. I have a proposition for you. Meet me at the city park—specifically the swing set.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk depends on the swingers

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

This guy swings

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think you overestimate the standards of swingers, who often are not especially attractive, but will groom themselves to seem more attractive than they are when they're hitting on people outside their circle.

Granted, you have to be attractive to get into Hollywood swinging parties, and especially rich swingers will look for less-rich young hot people to populate their swinging parties (usually with a personal interest in having a chance to smash that) but for the rest of ~~us~~ ~~them~~ ~~us~~ them, they want to to look slightly better than the Elephant Man, but do come clean, relatively well groomed (mind your nails, please) and if you can afford to dress nice, please do so. (No one denied access due to lack of funds.)

Far more important than being good looking in the alt-sex communities I've experienced has been attitude and personality. This is one place that my own vampiric obsession with consent has really served me well.

Swinging parties on cruises may be different. There is absolutely a phenomenon in which poor, antisocial behavior that parallels aristocratic problems, becomes distressingly common on cruises. (Note, I've never been on a cruise, but have affluent parents who do, and can be snobbish themselves. From what I've read about cruise experiences, they sound dreadful in their opulence, hazards and wastefulness during a global pollution crisis) But then, cruises are expensive, and so the Venn diagram of obnoxious cruise passengers and affluent folk who are obnoxious off-cruise as well has a large area of intersection.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I dated a woman in the "Life style". We went to a Xmas party that was "chocolate" (sex allowed) vs. "vanilla".

Let me tell you .. there were plenty of middle aged, normal or even lesser quality attractiveness. (IMO). I'm not Hollywood grade by any means.

It was literally just a big holiday bash with very average people with the added twist of random double BJ in the middle of the kitchen.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have been on several and never encountered this

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Do you sit at the bar and wear pineapple swim trunks? That'd probably help

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Spending a lot of time at the bar is the key. It also depends on what kind of cruise you're on. If you're on a family cruise the odds are way down.

But the people who proposition you aren't always going to be the people you'd want to have a threesome with.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are pineapple swim trunks the code for availability to swing?

This wouldn't be the first clothing code I've encountered.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pineapples specifically are the code for availability to swing. A pineapple print Hawaiian shirt would also work. If you see a house with a bunch of pineapple decor, they might be a swinger. Or they might just really like pineapples. Regardless, I personally can't look at the ubiquitous summer pineapple decor for sale in stores the same way I did before I knew about swingers and pineapples.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

same here, I think we should be sad in some ways

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The Disney cruises are the worst. It started normal, but then i found my girlfriend got fucking Goofy.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Time to book a cruise.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

They have whole cruises specifically for swingers

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This comment has triggered me to make a relevant asklemmy post. brb

edit: https://lemmy.autism.place/post/142327

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aren’t swingers looking to trade partners? Not do 3ways without the other usual consenting person knowing?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

That's partner swapping, or wife swapping in the mid 20th century, which is a subset of swinging. Plenty of swinging is bunches of people in a pile, or mingling and pairing. They're supposed to be consent and boundary conscious, but are not always (especially when booze or drugs get involved) which is the primary source of sore feelings and getting uninvited to future events.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I bet the science people that study riots n stuff are so excited to do science study stuff about this

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Whoa, whoa, there's riot science? Man I've been taking the wrong courses.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Riot science" sounds metal as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

New industrial metal band

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Take a look at Mehdi Moussaid’s work. a French guy studying mobs, how people act like fluids in high number. Riots are just a part of it.

You may find videos on YT, automatically translated I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why am I imagining two 30-person polycules rumbling over one (or more) unethical hookup between them?

Also: how does the legality of physical assault work in international waters? I would love to see Legal Eagle take this one on.

60-person brawl [...] 5 different floors

Honestly, that's kind of epic. It has the makings of a movie with this many people and locations. Maybe even a Knives Out sequel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Split-screen simultaneous brawling action.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://www.marlaw.com/maritime-personal-injury/cruise-ship-injuries/assault-on-a-cruise-ship/

Who Has Jurisdiction On Cruise Ships?

Jurisdiction can be tricky when it comes to cruise ships. In general the party that has jurisdiction will be determined based on the location of the ship at the time the crime is committed.

For example, if the assault occurs while the ship is at port, the authorities of that port will have jurisdiction over the crime. Countries within 12 nautical miles of the ship also have jurisdiction.

So what happens if the ship is at sea when the assault occurs? Jurisdiction will fall to the ship's registered country. With jurisdiction being determined primarily based on location, it's extremely important that you have a skilled cruise injury lawyer on your side to ensure you receive fair treatment and that justice is obtained.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

A lot of cruise ships are registered to countries that aren't really able to deal with this sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I'll take a Norwegian cruise. When I get into a brawl, they'll sentence me to a free community college course.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago

The first rule of Fight Cruise is you do not talk about Fight Cruise.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want a battle royale movie where the villian tricks a bunch of people onto a cruise boat and forces them to fight to the death. The finale can be one of the major winner contenders capsizing the boat to win the game

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The frail looking underdog is seen only barely surviving and escaping all major fights, only to make it to the bridge and capsize the ship after revealing they've been busy sabotaging the lifeboats

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

dwarf fortress loyalty cascade

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Looks like it was probably this one in 2022. There’s video in the link https://globalnews.ca/news/8959176/carnival-cruise-brawl-video/

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

She said the guests were “ignorant fools acting stupid” and praised the cruise ship’s security for how they handled the fight, saying the dispute could have been a lot worse.

Heh

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Legitimately the first thing that jumped to the front of my head upon reading the phrase "spread to 5 different floors"

I've not even clicked the link, and think I can hear the music

Edit: it was the music

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

I'd watch that movie. No forced battle royale, no video-game villain. Just a comedy that slowly goes completely off the rails for an escalating clusterfuck of fight sequences.

Avoid viewer fatigue by repeatedly looping back to the inciting incident and how it spread through different portions of the ship. You'd get the first go with the central cast and a knock-down, drag-out, slapstick fight between a handful of dudes, until their dramatic showdown in the middle of the ballroom is interrupted by a completely different mob of people getting chased through, and a straight-up swordfight on the balconies, and someone falling onto the dancefloor from god-knows-where. Rewind to where the main guys crossed paths with a different tour group and set off a misunderstanding that escalates into throwing food and then shoes and then cutlery. When that debacle plows into the ballroom, rewind again, and follow another short film about things getting wildly out of hand.

I'm picturing the Oldboy hallway scene, but with Zach Galifianakas wielding a pool noodle against fifty angry parents.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Could it be described as a blitz? That maybe started in the ballroom?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

More of a murder on the dance floor.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Reads like a "family guy" scene.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This person presumably pronounces the H in "hour".

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I love humans. This is hilarious

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Like a Dragon IW promotion campaign goes hard.

[–] ICastFist 7 points 3 months ago

Is this the remake of the Double Dragon movie we've all been waiting for? I mean, an all out brawl through 5 floors of the ship sounds straight out of a videogame

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