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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Thank you. Signed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Very nice initiative. Please send the link to people you think might sign. Especially if they are located in countries that haven't reached the quorum yet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are the countries that have met the quota, apart from Germany?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ah fuck. We hate rich people too much. Dont have anyone I can send it too then….

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

People from France and Germany are needed too. A petition has to reach 1 million signatures while also reaching the threshold in 7 countries.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I really hope this gets enough support to progress

[–] recursive_recursion 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

HOLY CRAP 190% at time of writing from France!!

damn France is killing it👌🔥

Current Leaderboard (as of 9:21 UTC [July 26, 2024])


  1. France 190%
  2. Germany 101%
  3. Denmark 88%
  4. Belgium 67%
  5. Italy 47%
  6. Netherlands 38%
  7. Slovenia 28%
  8. Slovakia 23%
  9. Austria 21%
  10. Spain 19%
  11. Finland 16%
  12. Luxembourg 15%
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Les critères pour définir un « ultra-riche » devraient varier d’un pays de l’UE à un autre en raison des différences économiques, fiscales et sociales entre les Etats membres. A titre d’exemple, en Belgique, nous proposons que toute personne qui dispose de 1,25 million d’euros en plus de son habitation principale et des avoirs affectés à son activité professionnelle soit qualifiée d’ « ultra-riche ».

If disposable assets (in addition to your house and normal expenses) of €1.25M counts as ultra-rich in Belgium what is rich then? And well-off? Isn't the whole "eat the rich" idea targeted at billionaires which is a whole other level than this definition?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I agree that I would not call it "ultra rich", but I don't see why you shouldn't pay more taxes at that point. You're clearly still incredibly well off, and the ceiling & opportunities are much higher for you at that point too, to make even more money.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Call me crazy but having €1,25M in assets (beyond your professional assets and home) while there are still people in need seems like a fine point to start contributing more to society and less to further increasing your personal wealth. If I had anywhere near that much money, I'd happily double my tax rates if it went to supporting those who can't support themselves and assisting those who could benefit from it.

I also suspect the home value exception is a major loophole here. The rich would begin investing more than ever into their homes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

€1.25m doesn’t sound “ultra rich” to me. It sounds like a successful small business owner. €100m, sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

1 million is like a good salary for 30 years (3.000€ Net for almost 28 years, 3K€ is great here in the EU).

If that's not some exceptionnal richess, well then I think it should be. Of at least tax them somewhat (the richer you are here, the less you pay in taxes)!

Billionaires are just ridiculous, parasites of the society, and should be taxed til they are just stupidly rich.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Signed from Finland

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a good test subject for us Americans. We will get to see how this pans out and hopefully then decide what's right for America.

Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

That's really really optimistic considering how well universal healthcare works everywhere compared to the US and yet there's no change in that regard.