this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
-12 points (35.7% liked)

Linux

5231 readers
161 users here now

A community for everything relating to the linux operating system

Also check out [email protected]

Original icon base courtesy of [email protected] and The GIMP

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

If you think about productivity, you can't help but think that having the default state of your computer being an image with a few icons on it is less than stellar. For opening files, it will never be tidy enough to give you access to all you need, you need a launcher or a folder structure, meaning the desktop is bad at this. For opening apps, having visual shortcuts on the desktop is a duplicate of whatever panel or launcher you have.

top 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Within the first minute just entirely rips off LTT.

I gave up when this “task based file” workflow thing came up.

create a “file” add some text. (notepad). Want to add an image? You can! Now its a formatted document (word, writer etc). Want to present it? You press present and now its .. a presentation? (powerpoint etc)

How the hell could this ever work? All of these apps (under the hood) would need to handle all these wildly different file formats whenever you suddenly want to change what you’re doing. It would require the OS to basically pass everything around instead, and all apps to be able to understand any potential file format that could ever exist, in case the “incoming” file change (notepad to word, txt to docx) is wildly different.

And what about files that have entirely unrelated tasks? I have a video saved through the “task based workflow above” which my final output is a playing video (so in vlc under the hood). But I don’t want to watch it, I want to edit it.

Am I now going to open the file and choose an app, or open an app and choose a file? How do I tell the computer what “task” I want, without telling it both the file and the app.

In this task based workflow it seems to imply there can only ever be one app under the hood. What if I present internally on teams and externally on zoom?

What if I want to edit a video and watch a different video? Or edit the video in one of many different editors, all of which “edit video” but do it different ways and have different uses?

A task based workflow as described would still need to start from either a file or an app. Its all well and good having a “new file” button which then magically takes me to whatever thing I need to modify that file, but as soon as more than one app exists to do similar tasks, this flow entirely breaks unless you start to add a list of tasks with slightly different names. And youre back to the original problem statement.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I also think the suggestions in this videos are shitty and impractical.

He's dreaming about something that could not be implemented. And even if implemented, is just cluncky and unusable.

I just ignored this video. And actually, most of his videos I'm ignoring as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Ah, OpenDoc. It was a good start, back in the 90s, and now is seen as an impossible pipedream. Ah well.

[–] Piatro 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kind of surprised this is getting so much criticism. It's a thought experiment, not a call for a fundamental change to all PC UX. My only real argument against the idea is that it's framed as being "for efficiency". If you want efficiency above all else you would just go full command line.

[–] onlinepersona -3 points 4 months ago

There are valid criticisms, but I do think it's good thought experiment. COSMIC desktop came out, but it's not doing anything radically new besides writing it in Rust. I haven't seen a completely new approach for OS interfaces yet but hopefully videos like this can get a conversation started on alternatives.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They just have to bring AI into everything huh

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was fairly ok with the changes until you mentioned the cursed words, AI. No thanks

[–] onlinepersona -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the maker of the video 😄 And probably AI isn't necessary. I wouldn't use an OS interface that has AI at its core either. Hell no.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That comment was supposed to be on Peertube lol

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing, not sure why so many downvotes