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Just a heads up, Lemmy is not immune to the same problem. If there are rogue moderators, just like Reddit the only option you have is to message the instance admin or other moderators. If theyre all on the same team and the instance admin doesnt respond or agrees with their behaviour, then you're in the same place you were with Reddit.

Also, Lemmy might have a chance at this being worse. AFAIK, on Reddit reports are anonymous. Moderators didnt know who reported what content. But on Lemmy, reports are NOT anonymous. While some argue this is helpful for identifying trolls/superfluous reporters, for the same reason it can also easily be weaponized by rogue moderators. The only thing Lemmy really has going for it is that its relatively small right now. But as its userbase grows, it will likely fall victim to the same user issues that Reddit has.

Its gonna be alright mang. Internet friends are intimate friends. If you are looking for any advice, save any energy you were going to put into trying to deal with the situation and redeeming reddit into this new place.

The coolest people on the internet are the ones going to the new thing. The first 1% to arrive are the ones likely making the content, making the platforms, building the culture. Once it gets to 5%, the culture take holds and it becomes a place, once it passes 20%, it quickly becomes mainstream, and the 1% are likely looking to dip, because its entered the geometric phase of growth. Before you know it, its at 60% and the cool kids have moved on.

A philosophy of non-attachment might help here, because this seems to be the way of things. From CL discussion boards, to SA, to newgrounds, Fark, Digg, tumblr, FB, insta, reddit, tiktok..

Its a cycle. Its fine. New things are made possible through the death of old things. This too, in time, will pass.

Advice: be liberal with the block function here. It's small enough to make a huge difference, and there are a lot of morons that you never need to see.

Also block the shit out of various subs here.

Doing those two things has made this place left with mostly decent, thoughtful people.

I personally block anyone spewing hate and aggression and anger. It's wonderful.

I don't have anything to add other than an anecdote:

I got permabanned from /r/askhistorians for having a "vulgar" username. Yeah, this one that I'm using now. I had been lurking for years, one time I commented a thank you to someone's reply, and bam! I was gone.

I still have a 13-year Reddit account but I went from posting several times a week last year to never in the last few months because of abusive moderation. I got banned for a comment saying the US should take the money it gives Israel and give it to Ukraine instead, in those words (no hate speech, no rules broken). When I appealed the only reply was an insult, and when I messaged the mod team I got a 3-day site wide ban from the Reddit moderation team for harassment (I wasn't abusive at all, just asked why I had been banned and for more feedback than a 4-word insult). I never received any other communication than being insulted, not even clarification on what rule I'd broken, so they lost me.

For what it's worth, about a month in Lemmy feels more like old Reddit where you can have disagreements with people without mods stepping in and banning the side they disagree with. I keep it civil even in disagreement and so far so good. I only go back to Reddit to check on specialty boards (like video game tips etc) and don't interact.

The thing about Moderators is: they are humans and humans can be complete fucking idiots from time to time. Some more than others.

The only time I got into some kind of trouble with moderators on Reddit (which I didn’t actually ask for) was when I got automatically banned from the BLM sub. After commenting on a shitpost sub. Telling a Nazi to stfu. Because people from that sub trolled them once. I immediately made fun of the moderators which got me blocked.

As far as I can say, there is no such function like a autobann on Lemmy. So moderators can’t punish you for yelling at racists somewhere else. Also the moderators here are way more chill. Especially on the German front. They post, engage with users, are friendly goofs. Good stuff.

Sooooo, welcome!

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Smooches 💋

Sorry my Dude, had mine for a 3, Lemmy has been solid, lighter on content so far but I guess I just gotta post more.

I don’t know much about how Reddit and moderation works behind the scenes but recently everything I post in different subs keeps getting auto-removed without any explanation whatsoever. If I message the mods of those subs, then there are only three responses: 1) no response whatsoever, 2) sarcasm and unkindness without actually assisting me, and worse 3) a permanent ban without further elaboration.

If you were getting auto-removed on all subs you were either shadowbanned (Reddit admins thought you were a spammer or evading bans) or you were running afoul of commonly copied automod rules. Every sub has their own automod code, but there's a lot of copying of rules, so you could just end up getting removed by the same rule copied to multiple subs. Some common rules remove content from new accounts or accounts without a certain amount of karma. Filters for slurs are pretty common as well.

If you were getting negative responses from all the mods, you either had really bad luck with the mods you contacted or something about your account made them think you weren't joining their sub for positive interaction. Having a lot of negative karma or an initial post or history that looked like you were joining to fight the sub's groupthink might get you sorted into the "don't feel the trolls" bucket. Or you were shadowbanned and the mods just assumed you must have done something wrong. There's no real rules on what legit modding is, so if they get a bad impression they won't assume good faith and spend time explaining things.

Frankly, if everyone is being mean to you it seems kind of unlikely it was totally a "them" problem. A random mod getting off on abusing a user, ok, but multiple mods in different subs just picking on you for no good reason?

Fuck Reddit mods, though. Those guys were all career mods running hundreds of subs with no interaction with any of them. They do it for the power and control over people.

What you're describing is exactly what happened to my account. I started a really popular subreddit called r/keitruck. Go check it out. It's still alive. I was smart enough to ask for help to keep it alive. But now I don't know if that was smart. I much rather start a new one here or on its own server even. Anyway, as soon as it started getting popular I started getting the auto removed messages. One day I got just a ton of them. The next day I got banned from the entire site from all my accounts.

I kept getting shadow banned because I linked to relevant on topic electoral reform videos and the site hates links for some reason.

When I was on Reddit, I changed up accounts every 2 years. Just safer that way.

Kinda curious what kind of posts you were making that got you this sort of treatment: maybe running up against some hyper specific filters?

I used to mod a default sub and some other larger communities, my account was like 13 or something. So much karma.

Just move on it's only a website, fuck those pathetic cunts.

Welcome here!

Reddit is terrible with the mod culture. That's why I left. I paid for multiple premium subscriptions because it was a community supposedly. But it was being run with no way to hold moderators accountable.

Cancelled all my subscriptions, and deleted all my posts with a third party app.

I haven’t been here very long but it seems pretty cool, for the most part.

Some good stuff to get into but unless you really like Linux and or Star Trek, the content is a lot lower.

I’d suggest playing around with different apps to see which one you like best.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484283206676-Contacting-the-admins