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[–] [email protected] 139 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Reminder that poor Gary Bowser was jailed for a year and owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He uses a wheelchair and has two kids.

It would be morally wrong to pirate all future Nintendo titles and pay the cover price to Gary's gofundme. Please don't do that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Please don't conflate an open effort to own your own hardware and data with a closed effort to literally sell access to copyrighted content under the table, and try to launder the profits and commit fraud. Yuzu and Bowser are not the same.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Does 30% of the gofundme go to nintendo?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Google says yes

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (2 children)

fuck Nintendo, I'll never support them or buy anything related to them ever again.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I feel like the people saying this now aren't going to follow through and will buy future Nintendo products. If this behavior was a deal breaker for you then you would already be boycotting Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, given that the last game I officially bought by Nintendo was Metroid Prime Dread (because I really really want that franchise to regain its former glory, same with F-Zero) and that also after a year or so of not buying anything new. Yeah I was kinda in a soft boycott already.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last thing i bought was BoTW. Guess whos playing ToTK on their linux pc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So in other words you were already boycotting them, and nothing has changed due to this lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We'll now im actively pirating. I haven't had much time for their IP before.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this... surprising behavior on Nintendo's part?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No, and it's still disgusting. They are fricking bullies.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The publicity inspired me to install it, so great job Nintendo.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago

Fuck Nintendo :)

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago

It is always morally correct to pirate nintendo products.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Where does a FOSS project find $2.4M? They weren't selling anything were they? They can't really have that big of a war chest can they?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They don't have it. It's a limited liability company so in this way they will pay only the sum of their assets (=bankruptcy) which is lower than legal expenses against a Goliath and definitely lower than 2.4 million. I'm guessing 1000x lower than the settled amount or they wouldn't have reason to found the LLC in first place or to settle this easy and this fast

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (4 children)

My understanding is they've been making 30k a month from their Patreon.

Which is also the main reason they were vulnerable to a lawsuit, because they've been profiting off of the emulator (which why legal by itself, is only popular enough to make money due to piracy).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

$2.4M is 8 years' worth in that case, assuming they were making that much the entire time. And of course a lot of that money was probably for the devs to afford basic living expenses.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

They had a Patreon so maybe that?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don't have it!!!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How do I turn off Yuzu's auto-update? I don't want my computer to connect to a website that Nintendo now owns every time I boot up the emulator.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should be fine. Yuzu checks the Github repo for updates which is now down. If you're still worried you could download it via Flathub and disable network access via Flatseal or terminal.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

I have the opposite question. How do I make sure that Nintendo knows every time I run yuzu?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Emulator devs should rly do their best to be anonymous

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This shouldn't need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.

Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn't really "enough" in the face of even rudimentary protections.

The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)

In this case, they'll be fine. They made a LLC and didn't take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

Holy shit this thing smells so bad. The announcement reads like "Nintendo's legal team wrote this in exchange for 1 mill smaller settlement"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

Fuck Nintendo. All my homies hate Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Reminder that paying Nintendo money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Buy the consoles, sure, but pirate if you have to play the games.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The consoles are the fucking things I don't want to buy... I'm sick of Nintendo and their "buy my console or fuck you" motto...

I haven't bought an Xbox since the 360 and haven't bought a PlayStation since PS4 because I'm so sick of dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one or two games since the parent companies are assholes and won't have the games ported to PC. At least Sony and Microsoft got the message that you can have your console and sell the games on PC

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

They're shutting down the website too :( I really liked the in depth update logs. Yuzu (the website, emulator, android app) felt so extraordinarily polished for an emulator too. Shame Nintendo

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

That escalated quickly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I agree to never give Nintendo my money again, I hope they also shut down someday.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Should've done a GoFundMe or something to fight Nintendo, I would've funded that...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What happened to the lawsuit that said that emulation is legal?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They must know they fucked up somewhere and decided to go this route rather than get exposed for potential shenanigans. From reading comments in other communities I was surprised to see a lot of people expected this outcome, although nobody was particularly specific about why (maybe someone here can give some insight.) For the record I've been on team "Fuck Nintendo" after the Gamecube, but I'd take the fact that other emulators haven't been targeted as possible hint that Nintendo got wind of something wacky going on. Who knows, maybe they're next?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They ran a LLC company and earned a quite substantial amount of money with Yuzu. I also suspect that they don't actually plan to pay much of this fine and just let the LLC go bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Financially the right move. If what I read was correct, it would take approx. 8 years of steady Patreon income to get to the $2.4M figure anyway.

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