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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It amazes me how many people still don't realize his asshole schtick is just him playing a character

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Watch him on master chef junior and you can see how well he treats the kids and how encouraging he is. Even on master chef he’s a lot less of an asshole vs hotel hell or hells kitchen

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly. In the UK version he was not an angry, shouty cunt. That was added for the US show.

It's as if people think The Rock was actually the heel he played in WWE or Anthony Hopkins is actually a cannibal who kills and eats people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Wait. Hold on. Are you telling me THAT one isn't true?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I understand that but that character is so offputting to me that I simply can't watch.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Puts on a show for the American audiences. Otherwise seems okay.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is it. His shows are overproduced for Americans, using cheap effects and dramatization for terrible reality TV. So I never watch him.

I think it'd be a lot different if I saw a version that was just what happened. Like kitchen nightmares but without all of the dramatics. That I would watch all the time. So of course they don't make it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He did some sort of traveling-around-the-world-and-cooking-local-dishes documentary. Watch it for yourself, I personally didn't like his personality and his picky character. And he tanks almost every local dish (hilarious reaction by the lao monks...they did not like what he had prepared for them).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is it really for American audiences? He seems the same to me in the UK Kitchen Nightmares

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

In the U.K. he's way less hard on folks then in the states. Of course, it could also be they're way less combative. No Amy's Baking Companies in the U.K. I don't think.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Spot on. Him on TV playing into his character seems like a POS. But from some of his other stuff he seems like a decent dude who acknowledges he doesn't know everything.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

I think he amassed a fortune legitimizing workplace abuse.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I can't stand him but I don't find any entertainment from people being assholes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A British chef? Oxymoron much?

Brits are going to teach the world about FOOD? Do they even know what spices are? Does ANYONE else think BEANS on TOAST is GOOD?

Next we'll get some Jamaican bobsledders, one-handed clapping, military intelligence and accurate estimates.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Hey! I saw a documentary about those guys one time.

They managed to stay cool running around everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah the british: know how to use spices, built a globe spanning empire to acquire them and stereotypically dont use most of them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

After seeing him attempt and fail at making a "fancy grilled cheese" I don't even know if he's really a chef or just an actor. What kinda chef uses cheese that doesn't melt to make a grilled cheese sandwich?!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

He owned up to that L in this YouTube video: https://youtu.be/ENhfIeZF_AY?si=

Which is more than Jamie Oliver ever did for that fried rice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You make Uncle Roger ancestors cry

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[–] gens 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's a good guy. I probably wouldn't get along with him, but that's just different natures.

Bdw, James May vs Gordon Ramsey cookoff

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I really enjoyed watching Alton Brown on "hot ones", he was cool and composed the entire way through, actually had critique of the flavors and why they didn't work well, he never complained about the spiciness of the food,, but had a nuanced and appreciative evaluation of what was occurring in his mouth.

The algo recommended this chuckleheads appearance on hot ones next, he went full schtick with it, I don't think I got hallway through before getting tired of it.

I enjoy seeing him humble (how to cook eggs), or humbled (James May head to head), but I don't like his manic energy and crass style of criticism delivery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Alton Brown on “hot ones”

Thank you for this recommendation!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't watch a lot of hot ones, but his is shoulder above heads better than any other episode of 'hot ones' I've seen. There have been other good episodes, but for a sauce/flavor breakdown Alton Brown does it phenomenally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I watched it last night and the way he was just like, "oh, nice use of ginger", "too much cilantro", and "I can fix this!!" was great! He wasn't focusing on the heat, he was focusing on the taste and it was great!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's amazing to me that he can separate the discomfort from the quality, I went into the other "chefs"that have done the show looking for similar evaluation, and I've been disappointed every time. Alton Brown is truly another level of professional, I need to re rewatch good eats.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I think he's probably a dick but his insults always crack me up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

He can't cook a grilled cheese worth a shit. The cheese didn't even melt.

https://youtu.be/8E4cQHejFq0?si=0hqkQQEZghdFBC6h

"This man just served a medium rare grilled cheese"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Well, he IS British so what did you expect?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you for sharing that video, the comments are hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

His video on how to make eggs has totally changed how I prepare them, now breakfast is my favorite meal. I like his cooking more than his reality TV schtick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Great recipes.

Not a great grilled cheese sandwich chef

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
  1. All trash beyond the early European version of kitchen nightmares
  2. Probably generally fine as he actually started as a decent chef in actual restaurants, but they are very likely not "his" recipes and instead written and maintained by an editorial staff.
  3. Unfortunately modeled after actual fine dining restaurant chefs from my first hand experience (though things are likely evolving from after the financial collapse forward and the general shift away from fine dining).
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I think it's mostly a personality made up for TV. He seems fine. I don't think I would consider the majority of TV chefs to be the top tier in the culinary world. Not to mention, the definition of the "best" recipe isn't static. There's a whole lot of "well how much work do you want to put into it?" and not to mention "are you OK if it has an entire stick of butter in it?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I think that he is an aspen tree, because of the way he is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like him.

https://youtu.be/ENhfIeZF_AY

Is a good watch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He yells at people for using thermometers on Hell's Kitchen. Hey carpenter, how dare you use a nail gun! One of the most useful tools for making sure food is safe and he thinks it makes you less of a chef.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're going to be a head chef at one of his restaurants. I don't think it's a crazy requirement as so many contestants are able to do it just fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's taking an important tool out of the tool box for no other reason than his personal bias against them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't think it's a metric of competency? I don't know, I'm not in the restaurant industry but it seemed like a skill to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Just because it's a competency doesn't mean you shouldn't use the tools available to you. Should I not use woodworking jigs because I'm competent in cutting dovetails? It makes the job easier and less prone to errors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Gordon always makes it a point that it's extremely easy to do, but I genuinely don't know cooking so I can't check the veracity.

However, I also can't check your analogy either because I'm not great at cooking nor woodwork. If it were programming and someone had to use GitHub CoPilot during an interview to do what I considered an easy task then I'd not want to have them at a high level.

Once again, my analogy I'd probably bollocks because I don't know cooking.

You bring up some good points. I just figure it was a high level competition, but I see where you're coming from.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I like the F Word. Most episodes are on YouTube and it's far better than his other personas that you've probably seen.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think his microwave critique was targeted at commerical kitchens not home cooks. There's a significant difference in expected quality between ordering out and home meals for many people. IMO he'd be a hypocrite if he used them in his restaurants.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I mean, how many winning chefs has he called shit and lazy? That's just how he does publicity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Guy can't even make a fucking grilled cheese properly

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