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If Trump Wins... ? (lemmy.world)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Americans; If Trump wins in November, what are your plans?

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Resist as much as possible without getting killed. BTW, I'm an Old-White-Guy Boomer. Not all people in my generation are lining up to kiss Trump's ass...

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It's important for the left to recognise that boomers as a whole also represent a group of people who face significant systemic challenges, and that the real enemy is capitalism and the power structures that maintain it as the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

We need a class war; not a culture war.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Significant systemic challenges" such as...?

They've had it better than us at every stage of life and have trashed everything for those coming after them. If they are facing challenges now, they're lucky.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

As they do now, capitalists are to blame for what previous generations have had, not the generation themselves. While the boomer generation may have profited by the direct disenfranchisement of others, the same is inherently true of almost anyone who participates in capitalism.

Hating boomers for being born when they were is prejudice plain and simple, while we may face our own modern issues they had their own when they were younger. More recently there's lovely stuff like elder abuse that's rampant in aged care.

The leftist cooks did a great video on the topic that I'd recommend watching rather than listening to me, I'm no expert on the topic, I just think social cohesion is important and we need to keep in mind who really causes our problems.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago

Same thing I did last time. Hunker down in a blue city in a blue state, worry about my friends and relatives in red states, and do what I can to take care of myself and others.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (2 children)

God I don’t know. It’d be a god damn miscarriage of justice. I don’t think I could handle 4 more years of it.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Careful, miscarriages are considered abortions and that’s against the law.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

4 more years - seems like the start of the Trump forever dynasty if you let him back in.

(From the perspective of a Canadian)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hunker down, pre budget anticipating more layoffs. I'm "lucky" in that I'm cis, white, male, married, too old for draft. So will also spend my time looking after folks in my community that don't have those keywords. I am already a friend to all, but will think double about their needs/concerns. (Obviously respecting their privacy). Try to volunteer more than normal.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Same. If it comes to it, I'll be a stop on another Underground Railroad. I hope it doesn't come to it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Im a broke woman with chronic health problems in a red state who may be homeless soon and who sure as hell can't afford to leave and go somewhere better. I guess I'll just keep trudging along and hope that somehow we're all being hysterical and things won't actually get that bad but if they do and if I lose what little social assistance I have I guess I'll just tap out and call it a life, ya know?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Easy, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Duh. I don't understand why you haven't done it already. I kid. But seriously. I hope you get the help you need.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (14 children)

I'm a trans woman and I honestly think that I very well may end up having to hide myself in my parents attic or something.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

would strongly recommend my transfolk friends move out of FL and TX, and really any red state. I know it's hard, but these places..... they're not run by people in their right minds.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Might as well go live in an actual developed country while you are at it.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

Well, the first thing I'm going to do is drink myself into a coma. After that, I don't know. I keep hoping to wake up rich so I can have a lot more options, but that hasn't happened yet.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately if the U.S. gets really bad, everywhere will get really bad. If Trump does putin’s bidding, then it will creat power vacuums around the world and will lead to wars. Leaving might be less safe than staying.

Or it won’t be as bad as predicted and it will just be very bad. Then I’m not sure.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Move back to Australia. Thank god I kept my citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Will you marry me? I'm a good cook and pretty funny, but also autistic so I need my alone time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hold on, let me check with my wife :)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My feeling is that a Trump reelection will be the null result of the American experiment. I expect we'll shift gears from decline to conflagration that will consume the Constitution, The three Branches, and the Union itself. Best case, we'll emerge humbled from the ashes much like Germany in the late 20^th^ Century.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Keep my head down for 4 years just like last time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’m watching his interview with Laura Ingraham. I started yelling at the TV and started getting PTSD from his first term. I’m really scared of what another Trump term would do to us. I forgot how scary that time was.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

I’ve been pursuing getting citizenship in an EU country since my grandparents were born in the EU and came to the US. Their country of origin seems to allow it so I’ve lined up an appointment with an immigration attorney I found online to see if they can help. I’ve started doing DuoLingo for the local language. I can’t do another four years of Trump and I doubt he will leave at the end of the term if he wins. I hunkered down and dealt with it last time but damn I can’t take that stress anymore.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I happen to also have an EU citizenship. Move to the EU.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just going to hope that the Democratic institution is strong enough to survive another 4 years.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Take advantage of poste election ammo prices falling because conservatives are emotionally driven idiots and stock up.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I've already got my passport, and my partner is getting their's later this year. I've always wanted to finish a masters, and it would be a great excuse to be anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Already working on getting permanent residency in another country that doesn’t share a border with the U.S. Not specifically because of loser Trump but we will be more likely to use it if that fucker finds his way back to office.

Honestly, I would be shocked if he ever wins another election or somehow manages to come out on top. He lost by a lot of votes last time. Since then, we watched him on TV while he incited an insurrection, his subsequent behavior suggests he may want to start a civil war, a jury determined he is a rapist, and enough other shit to write a book series.

His post-presidency career is selling NFT’s, shoes, begging for handouts from his idiot followers, criminal defendant, and whatever other scam he thinks of when he wakes up. He’s a petty hustler who inherited money. He’s a loser.

More importantly, he is a criminal. He can’t help himself. He is going to cheat in the election because he cheats at everything. He cheats on his wife, cheats on his taxes, cheats in golf, cheated in an election. He is going to cheat and he will be caught red handed. It’s not unreasonable to wonder if he might get himself arrested for what he does in this election.

He’s already facing four criminal trials. He’s not beating 91 felony charges, especially when most of them are from the feds. They don’t lose cases and they don’t bring high profile cases unless they have the defendant dead to rights.

He is toast and he knows it, which is why he’s so desperate to delay the trials and win the presidency. He is arguably a domestic terrorist. He is arguably a national security threat. The three letter agencies are probably on him like flies on shit. If they’re not, they fucking should be. I don’t believe he will ever be permitted to set foot in the White House again, and that’s assuming he wins in the first place, which he won’t, or cheats his way to victory, which also won’t happen. He's done.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Mentally prepare for a civil war that could easily explode into WW3.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Canadian here

Try to evacuate my American GF up here. We're both disabled but I will do anything in my power to get her up here

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Probably leave the country for a while. That's one of the nice things about being dual citizen. I understand this doesn't work for everybody, and there are probably other maybe better responses, but that's my first thought.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, my next step is to worry about whether we, stupidly, elect the Russian asset known as PeePee up here during a Trump administration across the border.

This scenario would pretty much just turn all of N America into a facist continent. Corruption and corporate rule would create social chaos and upheaval.

Both our countries are on their last breaths as it is.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

It's fun to joke that I'll just lean into the evil.

I'm worried people around me will actually just lean into the evil, tho.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

No matter if that criminal wins or not, EU needs to fend for themselves. The US is a lot more unreliable then Poetin (we know he's a bastard).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

get better job after all the good people leave the country

if you are a loser brain drain can be a real boost for morale and promotions!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Currently torn between stockpiling guns so I can get flashbanged and black vanned in the middle of the night by the Gestapo and illegally emigrating to Canada.

On the one hand, that first one will be annoying, on the other, I hate snow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@[email protected]

OP, Please make the title a question.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, I get it. If he were to win again things would get much worse. But I still feel like Republicans are running the country right now anyway, and things are only very slightly better than they were under Trump. Ok, some environmental things were rolled back from Trump policies. There was some student debt relief. But all the big things they're telling me to be scared for if he wins again, I'm already scared about right now. The Supreme Court corruption, the influence of money in politics, Russian interference, sympathy toward Israeli genocide--those things are doing as much damage as Trump could, and Democrats are ignoring it all!

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