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I’m convinced that we can address needs for changes while not being doomsday cultists either; I’m pretty much doing it as much as I can while not being a drama queen about it and generally shutting the fuck up.
But it doesn’t get me much attention which I guess is what the cultists are after.
People are tiring of the shouting, though. The cultists will find out eventually that people can't be mad all the time if you want your shit to work.
Nazism lasted 22 years. (Counting the Beer Hall Putsch to WWII surrender.)
Buckle up. It can and will get much worse, at least here in the US.
The plus side is that, even among the Nazis, there were innumerable examples of people doing good with their own two hands. No one can stop you from doing that.
I hope so… we need more discussing to help everyone find what they can do and that requires more listening and less shouting indeed.
I'm like 90% sure the actual hard in doomsayers are paid posters hired by the fossil fuel lobby.
It's become obvious that Millennials and Zoomers see fossil fuels as a curse upon the land and if they get into power they'll do everything they can to kill the industry outright, so what's there to do instead except to burn them out to the point that they give up?
Where they can't get approval, they'll instead force apathy.
Edit: see below convo with doomsayer insisting they're saying anything worthwhile when they push the fossil lobby line.
That's quite a hasty generalization. May be true on Lemmy but not in the real world. Especially when it comes to millenials.
Not really, millennials and Zoomers overwhelmingly poll as either seeing the climate crisis as the biggest issue or as it being second biggest next to the affordable housing crisis,
In both cases, the fossil fuel industry is at least partially to blame
Yeah but that's not the same as them seeing fossil fuels as a curse. A huge portion of them are more than happy to own a car.
Having to own one to be able to do anything but stay home isn't the same as being more than happy to own one.
Get some Not Just Bikes up in yo head.
Car culture is still very much alive and well among zoomers and millenials. Your generalization doesn't represent the reality. I'd say that around half of my male friends like owning a car. The rest of them either cant afford owning one or don't want to because they live in a big city. Even those are more than happy to drive around with one they borrowed from their parents.
I couldn't find any reasonable statistics or survey data talking about whether people prefer cars or other modes of transport and why, but the general theme amongst Gen Z in particular is ecological awareness and sustainability, so it wouldn't make sense for a lot of those people to drive cars just because they prefer the car itself, other than being able to get around places quickly or feeling safe on the street etc.
That's the difference between stated and realized preferences. If I were to answer a poll I'd say those things are important to me aswell but I still drive a diesel truck. Just because a person says something is important to them it doesn't mean every aspect of their life is going to reflect that.
I'm a millennial and have been called a "doomer" because I realize it's essentially too late. I know people don't like to think that, but the reality is that nothing of any significance has or is being done to curb global warming. You couple that with the fact we've literally poisoned everything, including ourselves, with no way to clean it up and I don't see the quality of life for humans being great after 2050. You can blow me off as a shill if you'd like, but this is just reality. Additionally, my generation and gen z have a significant number of fascists and the pollution continues, so I don't think that's the solution you're hoping for. I'd love to be wrong, but that isn't backed by the facts.
I mean the Ottawa conference literally led to cutting temperature increase by the end of the century in half but sure kid, nothing of substance has been done.
There is nothing the fossil lobby loves more than for you to be pissy about your right to give up. You're not just letting them win, you're getting amgy with people pointing out that you're letting them win.
Where was I angry? I was adding to the conversation and you decided to be a whiny asshole with your sad attempt at belittling me (kid, really?). You're quite pathetic, bud.
Because if someone is pathetic it's definitely not the punk going to bat for the fossil lobby's position, definitely not.
Lol, get a life guy.