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Which actors you admire that you really wish not to have any scandals? (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I was watching a video on Willem Dafoe on his iconic roles, and his passion to craft and life, and positivity, exudes from him immensely. In that video, I am surprised he remembers from which of his movies the lines came from. It made me love him more as an actor because he loves life and his job.

But then during the interview, I remembered too when I watched Kevin Spacey's interview before, admiring him and it turned out he is a creep. I was telling to myself about Willem Dafoe "please don't be a creep, please don't be a creep."

Willem seems like a genuinely nice guy though but I hope I don't get proven wrong!

Edit: clarified the title

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The point you are making is aside from consent though.

[–] elint 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The person you're replying to said it was grooming and inappropriate. Don't move the fucking goalposts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not moving the goal posts. Read vaultboy's post. Of the four sentences (if we ignore the apparent typo) three of them focus only on the age gap. The other establishes the premise of grooming and mentions the age gap again. Vaultboys point never addresses a 17 year old's capacity to consent. Vaultboy makes a case that the age gap is objectionable. That is a valid point, it's just not the one that they thought were making.

[–] elint 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Grooming and propriety are entirely different standards from rape. From what I gathered, they were claiming the former. Valderamma is being accused here of being a creepy sleazebag, not a criminal child rapist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. From ABCDE's comments and Demi's lyrics I was reading the conversation as being about the latter. I didn't really see anyone making the case that Wilmer wasn't being a creep.

[–] elint 1 points 8 months ago

That's fair. Demi did mention consent in her lyrics. I interpreted that a bit differently (that she may have felt too young to fully understand consent, not that she felt she was violated without consent). But I see your point.