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The US is supporting Israel through what we can mostly all agree is a genocide of the Gazans. Clearly, Biden isn't a genocidal maniac, yet he's all in with unwavering support. Why are we doing this? There has to be a logical reason that isn't just "we want Israel to kill everyone in Gaza and take their land a la lebensraum."

We know this is an emotional topic, so please be respectful of each other so that we can have open and clear authentic discussion on the matter.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Western powers support Israel because the Middle East is a strategically important region and Western powers have exactly one reliable partner there. I mean, look at what the House of Saud can get away with just for being a semi-reliable partner.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How exactly is Israel reliable when they do whatever they want regardless of western powers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

6 day war proved that Israel is not only an ideal staging ground but can basically just go out and kick the entire neighborhood's ass all on their own, so having them on side for an actual throwdown in the region is seen as incredibly valuable for NATO war gamers considering hypothetical wars with Iran or even Russia if they decide to step too far over their side of the caucuses.

So long as they control their turf absolutely, and will attack whatever they're pointed at, not attacking what they aren't is seen as less of a problem

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

kick the entire neighborhood's ass all on their own

people actually believe this shit. 🤦‍♂️

israel has always, since its inception has been propped up by western powers. Just because you don't see them hoisting up a different flag than their own, doesn't mean they are fighting anyone alone.

This is like US boasting they alone kicked the british out without any assistance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sending them weapons isn't propping them up quite the same way the US got the assist from France Spain and the Netherlands, n'or were the arab states the same kind of comparative force that the brits were to the colonists, also Israel was initially a Soviet ally before the suez crisis.

Also, saying it doesn't count because Israel bought an overwhelming kit advantage is like saying Cannae didn't count because Hannibal "cheated" by facing off with the Romans so they'd be facing into a dust storm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

As reliable as Trump?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And let's not forget ol Saddam in the 80s