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[–] [email protected] 206 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Oh and important fact:

The judge stipulated that the fines CANNOT BE PAID VIA CAMPAIGN FUNDS.

Fat Ass can't run to his useful idiots. It has to be paid via assets and company funds.

#FIRE SALE FRIDAY!

[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But it can be paid by a PAC.

So basically the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (3 children)

His entire campaign raised ~$330M in 2016 election cycle. At the very least it's a massive hit to the funds they have to spend.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (5 children)

He's going to try to stiff the court. I'd bet money on it. He's going to hide behind his lawyers and try to claim the law doesn't apply the same way to an ex president. Just to delay long enough for the election.

The real test of our democracy will be whether or not they just arrest him when he tries that.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not possible in this case, unless appeals court stays judgement then he's only got 30 days from now to pay up, or else the government can start seizing assets.

There's already a ban on transferring assets, and his businesses will have a court appointed monitor who will have the authority to review ALL payments the company makes. Also he can't cover the payment with loans from any bank or other financial institution registered in New York, which is most of them, lmao

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

In order to appeal he has to put 110% of the amount owing in escrow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who gets to start seizing property first? The State of New York or E Jean Carroll?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I assume Carroll, as her judgements deadline to pay will come sooner.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Uh, I don't think New York law provides for debtors' prisons anymore. Those went out of style in the 1700s.

The way a court actually handles an unpaid judgment is it just orders the seizure of any property the debtor does own. It doesn't need permission.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

That's fair. It'd be more than the court has done so far

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Worth pointing out that there's interest on it until it's paid. Currently NY interest on judgements is 9%.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

At what point do they take assets?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

No clue, but the interest will pile up until they do

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Presumably after the deadline stated in the order.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

DeSantis has previously stated he won't extradite the Cheeto to NY. So in event of arrest warrant he'd just stay away from NY like he already does or til he is president and he isn't able to be arrested over that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

So they seize the assets of his companies in NY and he can never do business there again. I'm sure they'd see this as an absolute win.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

He can crash on Ronda's couch when they seize Mar-a-Lago

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

He's going to try to stiff the court.

If he does, they can seize assets.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But does that count as actual campaign funds or campaign funds + PAC money? Because the latter is the issue. PAC money can be spent however the PAC wants on whatever the PAC wants and PACs can also be funded with donations of any size (and by anyone from any country). Thanks, SCOTUS.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

That's like four trillion rubles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He has a leadership PAC. That is where you put the explicit bribes.

He can direct the money to pay his legal bills.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

This whole thing seems like what would be a slap on the wrist for those of us who aren't fabulously wealthy and powerful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

With as much as his name is in the headlines, he may not have to spend as much.

His base seems willing to prove the old adage "I don't care what they say about me in the papers, as long as they spell my name right ".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Aren't they broke now? He already spent it on legal fees up to this point.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean, that's what Trump's financial paperwork says, so we really have absolutely no idea

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I think the financial monitor was added on for three years too, so they got people watching, hopefully.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I mean the PACs that people were donating to instead of the GOP, didn't something like $40,000,000 go to pay lawyers and such for Trump?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

I would rather he pay with campaign funds. I don't care how rich he is, I want him to fail in the 2024 election.