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Should programming.dev defederate from Meta if they implement ActivityPub? (self.meta)
submitted 1 year ago by starman to c/meta
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I'm not suggesting anything, just want to know what do you think.

Here is a link if someone don't know what Meta's Threads is: https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/

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[–] Mikina 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, I think we should defederate. Don't give them free content, and don't let them monetize Fediverse.

Also, I'm not really interested in having the millions of Facebook and Instagram users here, it's one of the worst and most bland people and content internet can offer, right behind Tik-Tokers. I don't see how it would add any value, other than moderation issues.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YSK : Meta is also a threat to the privacy of fediverse users, if there are fediverse instances that remain federated with Meta.

Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.

https://www.wired.com/story/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization/

[–] Mikina 6 points 1 year ago

That's exactly what I was worried about, and I'm really really not comfortable with. Especially because it's the most valuable data for training ML models to manipulate with people, or to keep them interacting with a website they want, which is something that I fear the most from the current advances in AI. I know it's already happening for a long time, but I don't want to help them with making it even better.

So, definitely defederate. I'd even say that there should be an option implemented that would allow the users to defederate on their own, which would not allow their posts or comments to show on other instances they've defederated with, while also not showing them any content from said instances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You make a good point. My initial Reddit interactions, for example, consisted of involvement. Before the API thing it had become the same thing as 9Gag: a place to just doom scroll for the entire time spent.

The content becomes samey, or repost central.