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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. The Fediverse has a lot of growing room in the QOL department and is hampered by the relatively small (and often part time) dev teams working on it. Meta comes in, builds a compatible platform, then starts offering meta-platform only 'improvements' that offer those QOL features. Rest of the Fediverse dies out because 'meta' isn't that bad and they aren't abusing their position (yet).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's super depressing

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/

If the founder of Mastodon isn't worried about Threads, I won't be, either.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You absolutely should be. If Mastodon instances will start federating with Meta I will defederate them. And move my accounts from any instance that federates with them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

His lack of worry seems to be founded in Meta Defederating, not federating, though. Meta would do more harm by being a part of the community than by leaving a ways down the road. It seems like a particularly myopic view of possible problems with Metas move.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Saved for later, but small startups/operations always know the will play second fiddle and be the smaller guy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Microsoft literally invented the term, but even they've abandoned the philosophy and pivoted to contributing to the development of open source software. Who's to say "Meta" won't be making contributions to the development of ActivityPub itself like Microsoft does with Chromium? I won't be signing up for Threads since I already have Mastodon, but I'm also unconcerned with it joining the wider fediverse and look forward to following the people who do use it from my Mastodon account.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ummm... You do know this is Meta we're talking about right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Microsoft changed and so could Meta. They’re out to make money not just to be evil so if they think this will make them money they would do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also won't hesitate to be evil if they think that will make them more money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's true but connecting to the fediverse is definitely trying to keep the government off their back about being a monopoly. Playing nice is in their best interests for now. If that ever changes they can be defederated at the point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Microsoft could just as easily change back, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meta makes a lot of contributions to open source. Jest and pytorch are two tools they have made open source. They have their eyes on killing Twitter and connecting to one of the biggest alternatives is a smart move, but eventually if all goes well they won't need mastadon anymore. That's the concern I think. Once threads is big enough they will quietly remove activitypub support and screw up mastadon in the process.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, this is precisely what I thought too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EEE famously doesnt work very well, Microsoft who coined the phrase even gave up on it after a number of unsuccessful attempts

I wish people would stop spamming EEE

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There have been a number of times where it successfully stifled the advance of a more free or open technology. It can't necessarily "extinguish" in the sense of totally destroying a technology, but it can destroy the openness of the technological landscape. Just look at how Google has layered their crap on top of the open core of Android. Or look at how Apple has successfully gotten like a third of all iPhone users to be openly hostile to anyone who uses SMS and/or 3.5mm jacks. Or hell, look at what's going on with Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm of the opinion that people who look down on you for not using their chosen product are just awful people to have in your life.

Cut them out and make it clear that it's because they have no respect for you and your choices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The nice thing with open source software, there is relatively little stopping you from using it.

Except of course if your workplace or educational institution has some restriction or imposition on the software you use. Which tends to be the result of the ubiquitous nature of proprietary software.