Programming

17538 readers

69 users here now

Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!

Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.

Hope you enjoy the instance!

Rules

Follow the programming.dev instance rules
Keep content related to programming in some way
If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos

Wormhole

Follow the wormhole through a path of communities [email protected]

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

snowe

Ategon

[email protected]

I love Kotlin (self.programming)

submitted 1 year ago by Uplink to c/programming

15 comments fedilink hide all child comments

...but I hate that you can practically only use it with IntelliJ. Trying to use it with just Gradle and vscode is such a pain and maybe even impossible to get anything more than basic syntax highlighting. That is all.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not to upset anybody, but after I installed the JetBrains toolbox some months ago, I started having an idea about where their business model is going to. We should be ready to subscribe and pay for the IDEs we use. And considering the amazing work they are doing to maintain the whole ecosystem, it's worth it. But then I expect customer care for when Gradle builds are broken 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't have a problem with people paying for the tools they use. I also "pay" for Neovim in the senst that I donate regularly to the project. My grievance is with the way Jetbrains markets Kotlin as "Open Source" with an "Open Community" when in reality they are blocking access to anyone trying to make it work more smoothly with tools that are not Jetbrains endorsed. That, in my opinion, is openwashing as we have seen for decades from companies trying to act in bad faith, like Microsoft or VMWare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I mean that has been their business model for some time now, just like with most other software nowadays. But unlike most other software their prices are extremely reasonable; when you buy it consecutively for years you get progressive discounts. I actually *need * only one editor but I pay for them all because the cost of the full package is just slightly higher and their IDEs are amazing. A few times a year I use one of the "other" editors for personal projects and such.