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The future of back-end development (lemm.ee)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/programming
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What are your opinions on the future of back-end web development? Is the Java ecosystem going to wither away as more modern and better solutions are emerging and maturing?

If so, which language/framework and/or programming paradigm do you think will become the new dominant player and how soon?

Personally I would love to see Rust becoming a new standard, it's a pleasure to write and has a rapidly growing ecosystem, I don't think it's far away from overtaking Java. The biggest hurdle imo is big corporations taking a pretty big risk by choosing a relatively new language that's harder to learn compared to what has been the standard for decades.

Playing it safe means you minimize surprises and have a very large amount of people that are already experts in the language.

Taking the risk will definitely improve a lot of things given that you find enough people that know or are willing to learn Rust, but it also means that you're trading off Java flaws with Rust flaws. That's the case however with every big change, and Java flaws are a good enough reason to make a big change.

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[–] sirdorius 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can also tell you without any shred of doubt, that there are many Amazon teams that absolutely hate Java and would rather build their stack on top of anything else (except PHP, which is rightfully prohibited company wide)

[–] lysdexic 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can also tell you without any shred of doubt, that there are many Amazon teams that absolutely hate Java

Irrelevant. What matters is what the company uses, not what some guy's personal taste.

Amazon standardizes on Java. There is no way around this fact.

[–] sirdorius 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, some "guy's" personal taste matters, because if employees hate it, over time they will stop using it. When you get paged at 4AM because some NPE popped up in prod that could be avoided by any sane language you will think twice on the next stack you build. And since when does popularity equal quality?