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I want to know why I'm wrong- because this question has been eating at me for years- and I secretly blame the Democrats for all of the health insurance problems.

Why can't California and New York bind together in an interstate compact, and create medicare for all of their citizens?

California and New York have GDP's above most other countries in the world. In general, democrats hold majorities. Tell me why I shouldn't blame the democrats for:

  1. Doing Obama care half assed, when something like 80% people wanted a public option.

  2. Not just doing it themselves. For instance even NYC by itself has a GDP above Denmark, and NYC is filled to the brim with the super rich.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's "basically that." But it's not "actually that."

A public option would provide necessary health care at zero cost. Without regard to your income. Without regard to your job.

This creates a situation, where if you earn a little bit more, you get "taxed" a lot. And quite frankly, sometimes it's better to earn less and get healthcare than to earn more and lose it.

Also, I'm under the impression, and could be wrong about this, but I believe NYC gets the funding for the NYC state of health from the federal government. So it can be held as ransom, by bullies like Adams or Trump.

I'm suggesting that NYC should do an actual public option not using federal money. Instead binding together with other states to increase leverage and lower costs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The people overall want it, but the r's shut that shit down any chance they can. Take a look at Canada if you want to see the far rights trying to take down their public option. Right now, the administration is trying to take away Social Security and Medicaid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But Democrats have majorities in California and NYC and other blue states. The republicans aren't necessary for this to happen. I think?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I know in Washington State, everyone thinks it's a blue state. Yes, we vote blue overall, but the actual politicians lean right as they cater to the oligarchs that have set up shop here. The oligarchs don't pay their fair share in taxes.

Our governor, which I held my nose to vote for btw, is a POS. He's a republican in democrat clothes. Every state has a different political climate.

The oligarchs basically act like mob bosses. That's why Boeing left for Chicago, they didn't like that there were so many unions and regulations here. The workers would never have stood for the shit that passed through inspection because they had decades of experience. As soon as they separated the white collars from the blue collars, you could see the disasters coming. It actually took a bit longer than I personally expected.

What I'm saying is, it's complicated. The greeds run everything, not sure how to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah Dems say they want this stuff on TV, but when push comes to shove, they do whatever they can to prevent it from actually passing. Case in point was the ACA where they bailed on the single payer option in order to maintain the private insurance scheme with a plan written by Mitt Romney. They claimed they did this to "reach across the aisle" and gain Republican support but they had a super majority and didn't need Republican support. Zero Republicans voted to support this plan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Funny thing: insurance companies donate to both parties ;).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

I'm certain that none of this is correct