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Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use" (mastodon.online)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Mozilla's new TOU only covers pre built Firefox executables, not the source code.

Librewolf and Waterfox are good forks that would not be bound to the TOU.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, but the problem isn't really the browser itself, it's Mozilla which has turned in an advertising company, supported by Google and another ad company. If you need to sync your data and want to stay private, you have to do it with an third party or selfhosted cloud service, independend which FF fork you use.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for an actual answer

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You're welcome. I've been covering this issue since it's been announced. There are a number of accounts who are either deliberately spreading misinformation or who have a very poor understanding of how software licenses work.

Anyone who tells you that these terms are normal for a locally run browser is making the posts in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for further explaining.

I’ve been super frustrated by lemmy posting vague info then going to watch some Linux and selfhosting YouTubers for them to only explain or gossip the issue for 20 minutes without alternatives.

So far trying librefox.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Librewolf btw.

I've personally moved to Waterfox and very much enjoying the experience, with a few hiccups.

[–] tyler -3 points 2 days ago

My lord, you’re the one who misunderstands licenses. And all internet browsers are “locally run” that’s literally what makes them browsers. They browse non-local resources.

Just for one major example, literally chrome has a ToS.

You’re the one arguing in bad faith. Holy shit you’re spreading so much misinformation it’s astounding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Those don’t work on iOS sadly and it’s a bit of a workaround to get on MacOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you see installing a .dmg file (or installing through homebrew) on macOS as a workaround, or what do you mean? I'm not sure I have ever installed a single app from their store, so maybe it's just that such a "workaround" feels normal to me, but scary to others?

https://librewolf.net/installation/macos/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I am very comfortable with dmg lol the issue is iOS

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The Walled Garden is actually the problem, then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok… I have a Linux machine too. But I need apple devices for my work as well. I’m asking for solutions not “ditch your phone and computer for different ones.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Sorry, wasn't trying to agitate, just spewing on the Net.

[–] Colloidal 1 points 2 days ago

Not a lot of options for iOS. There’s Tor browser and Brave that I know of. Brave is surprisingly good, but I don’t do a lot of serious navigation in the phone, and tend to favor private mode so the tracking gets deleted once I close the tab.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There may be Mac specific browsers that might be a better fit. I don't use a Mac personally but could be worth going through the App store to see what is out there.