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[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My country isn’t sending billions in modern weaponry to Russia (at least as far as I’m aware). But they are sending them to Nazis in Ukraine, so I have something to say about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well, you still definitively called Ukrainians Nazis after I provided you with enough information to make you at doubt that assessment.

I envy your mental gymnastics skill. Wonder how you maneuver around the fact that "a Nazi nation elected a Jew president with 75% vote share".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, I didn’t. Pointing out a Nazi regime being propped up by the US is not a declaration that all Ukrainians are Nazis. Seems a move of desperation on your part to attempt to distort it into that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

To use your own tactic against you (but unlike your attempts, effectively), earlier you claimed that "Ukrainians call themselves Nazi". Now you're saying that you don't call Ukrainians Nazis, but only the government. And I'm the desperate one, countering your every argument with facts that you ignore, while all you do is attempt to find inconsequential loopholes in my statements to declare yourself victorious. Meanwhile, I'm yet to see even a single substantial argument that would indicate that Ukrainian government is Nazi. So far your arguments were:

  • "There are Nazis in Ukraine". Yeah, but a couple Nazis doesn't make the gov or the people Nazis.
  • "They named streets after Nazis". Just because a street was named after a person who was possibly a Nazi doesn't make the gov Nazi. Especially considering the fact that other streets are named after Jews.
  • "Gov contains authoritarian elements". Sure, doesn't make it Nazi.

Simply repeating something doesn't make it true, you have to back up your claims. Instead you just gloss over all the counter arguments I make, like there being plenty of Jews in Ukraine and the president himself being a Jew, that completely invalidate your claims.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There’s plenty of valid criticisms leveled against “the US” that have nothing to do with me or most of the people who live here, but rather a criticism of those in power. The folks who take those criticisms personally are usually speaking with a guilty conscience.

I’m accusing my own government of being league with Nazis now, and it didn’t take that much convincing. Any hint at pro-fascism will get a fierce rebuke of any US politician who dares dip their toes into that, and calls for them to be banned from public service. Those defending them tend to be secretly supportive of their fascism.

So what’s the deal with you? How much more Nazism would have to come out of the ruling class in your country to earn your opposition? Or is this a secret supporter kind of deal?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago) (1 children)

There's plenty of valid criticism towards Ukrainian government, which I have explicitly agreed to. Them being a Nazi, however is a false claim at best and deliberate propaganda at worst. If somebody is challenging your false claim, and showing that you're wrong, it doesn't mean that they are taking it personally. But of course you're gonna stick to your tactic of ignoring my arguments, and in addition now throw in an ad hominem attack. Ukraine is not even "my country", I'm not a citizen and can't vote in elections, so I can't even "take it personally".

And to answer your question, I would easily admit that the government is Nazi, if I saw at least 1 solid point proving that fact. So since I haven't observed, and you failed to provide any, I'll have to insist that your claim is blatantly false.

Also yes, you got me, I'm a middle-eastern-looking, brown haired, dark-skinned Nazi supporter. (/s for absolute clarity)
Every shot you take is a miss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

So now that claiming a personal stake isn’t helping your argument, you’re dropping that?

https://lemmy.world/comment/14900993