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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

Mildly? I'm radicalized as fuck. This is the most infuriating shit. Fucken useless ass democrats are only good at constructing elaborate and expensive footguns. They couldn't read the fucken room and hear people screaming for any change at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

The media completely failed at their job of informing the public.

A democracy requires an informed citizenry, and the US media over the past eight years in particular created an increasingly misinformed citizenry.

When people are more concerned that a trans girl might play on a softball team than that the climate crisis might profoundly devastate the biosphere and much of life on it, human and otherwise, for the next 10,000 years, the media has failed. When people worry about crime when it is low, an economy when it is thriving and immigrants when they do much of the hard work that sustains that economy and commit fewer crimes than the native-born, the media has failed.

When it came to Donald Trump, they went easy on him, and they again and again let him and the far right set the agenda. They constantly treated asymmetrical issues as symmetrical ones – if the Democrats resisted Republican outrages, both sides were “polarized”. In the media everything had two sides, even if one side was the truth and the other was the lie, one side was the human rights or the law and the other side was their violation.

They went soft on Trump’s criminality and incompetence, and his sheer volume of scandals meant that the past ones were forgotten as the next one erupted. He would not have won his 2016 minority victory had the US news media adequately conveyed that Trump was not the fun fictional character in the reality TV show The Apprentice; he was a serially bankrupt man repeatedly accused of sexual assault with a lot of criminal ties and a history of not paying his bills, being helped on by the Vladimir Putin regime, which had itself seriously corrupted the information environment of the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/07/us-progressive-election-trump-maga

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I've changed man, since then. I don't know how I feel about the Democrats, but I'm devastated over who voted Republican. So many people in this country voted for him. It wasn't just we had low turnout, but also just that he had so much. That's the disheartening thing for me, that still, with everything we know, he still carries 50% of this country easily. So yeah, we had too few, but worse, he has too many.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Last numbers I saw is that Trump more or less got the same amount of votes as 2020 while Harris got 15 million less votes than Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Right? I found pre-election solace in knowing that even though his cult will never turn on him, he couldn't have possibly gotten MORE supporters in the past 4 years.

Turns out they LOVE the hate and they want more of it.

Sorry, Mindless Americans, it's not Trump's fault anymore, it's YOURS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's what I've come around to. It's not him. He's a figurehead that we apply blame but it's not. It's the people - the public. They want this. They have the fear and the hate, they actively want it. If America didn't want him, they wouldn't have voted him in. Even with tampering/whatever, if America didn't, he wouldn't be there. But America does want him, and that's a very sobering and sad thought to me. I try to live with a simple code - do what you want, as long as it doesn't hurt others. I learned yesterday that most American's don't have similar values.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently people see him as the strongman lesser evil who’s gonna bring back economy, "fix" illegal immigration (both of which the current administration has done), and keep status quo on energy and abortion. I blame the Democrats for not campaigning on their successes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They DID campaign on their successes, but nobody believed that anything had gotten better because they still couldn't afford groceries.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

IMO that's way off base. People want change. They know they're getting screwed, and the grifter is promising change. He's lying and I think most people know that, but the fact that they'd take a convicted felon over what the DNC offered up is a crushing repudiation.

Bernie would've mopped the floor with Trump, because he also offers change. Someone like Obama would've too, even though there was a paucity of actual change during his terms.

We need to drag the DNC kicking and screaming off of the corporate dick it's sucking, and get it left enough to offer real change, and people will vote for it in droves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Part of me blames the collective memory loss of the COVID years and a complete lack of understanding of cause and effect.

It's like everyone forgot there was this massive global pandemic which absolutely killed entire industries. And even though the important parts were propped up during the lean times by government support, that support ended eventually, with the economy still a mess that couldn't just be put back together like nothing happened.

I mean, people at that time didn't even have a concept of what was going on. They have no idea how much money was spent keeping the lights on. People lost their shit over the billions it would cost to forgive student loans, but had no idea how many more billions were already spent on—and abused by—businesses whose pandemic loans were forgiven by the government.

Everyone forgot the pandemic was only as bad as it was in the US because it was so completely mishandled by the Trump administration. We could have had everything back to normal a lot sooner if there was even a little bit of national preparedness, not to mention if we didn't have all the misinformation spread by his own administration.

So when the economy went to shit in 2021-2022 during the Biden administration, people shrugged their shoulders and put the blame on the old man in the white house, despite the fact that it's been on a recovery trend during this last year. And so Trump's first year is going to start with stronger markets, he'll get the credit, and then things will get worse just in time for someone else to take the blame for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter how well "the economy" recovered from Covid, when you see stuff like this:

https://inequality.org/facts/income-inequality/

Trump isn't going to fix that, but Biden already didn't, and FPTP means you get your pick of those two options.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do you have figures that include 2024? That data seems to stop at 2021. Not saying you're wrong but the picture being painted is just Biden's first year as president during the height of the pandemic.

Comparing things like rates of inflation and the consumer price index, we see the numbers drop dramatically within the past two years, which seems to have been improving cost of living somewhat (or, ruining less quickly, at least) for the average American, though there is still a lot more to be done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

It's not really about that short of a timeframe. Here's another example:

https://apps.urban.org/features/wealth-inequality-charts/

Compare 1963 to 2022:

We're living in a new Gilded Age, people know they're getting fucked, and saying "Oh, but look at this number going up" doesn't work anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How is voting for a literal past president any kind of change? America chose hate and blame this week.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He will bring lots of change. None of it good, but the DNC should view that as a crushing repudiation of their approach. They can't even blame the Electoral College, they fucked up that badly. Hopefully they'll learn a goddamn thing or two and run someone offering positive change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It was incredibly hadx to fight the constant youtube and tiktok right-wing extremism that they've been fed. They've been taught to hate women and minorities so much that they vote for literal Hitler.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Republicans actively work for an uneducated population they can rule. That's the root of this problem.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve tried talking to trumpers to point out the double standards, contradictions, and outright lies. They don’t listen, just ad hominem or whatabout out of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

So much whatabout. Are they actually convincing themselves this way, or do they realize it's stupid but just don't have anything else to say?

Trump sexually assaulted people and was convicted of fraud.

Whatabout Hillary's emails and Hunters laptop?

First off, those people aren't running for president AND it's not fucking RAPE AND FRAUD!!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've tried talking and that doesn't work, I've also tried being kind and all that shit no dice. But everyone gets upset when I say let's shoot them, so please tell me more about how it's my fault.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll say it for you. Thomas Crooks was THIS close to being an American hero.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nobody seemed to mind when Hans Gruber fell from Nakatomi Plaza.

Or when the Wicked witch of the West got splashed with water.

Or when The Death Star exploded.

And I don't give a fuck how rapists and felons feel about what I say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You forgot all the failed Hitler assassinations, nobody cried over those either

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, I was trying to avoid THAT example because it's become too cliche at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm radicalized too. Wanna start a club? We could be the happy fun clan against fascism. Need a shorter name though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

No, I want to join an existing massive one and change it at its very core to be something radical that we can wield. Wait a minute....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How about the Kool Kids Klan?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Nah. Gotta shorten it. Just abbriviate it, and help me with these white sheets. We need to maks ghost costumes.

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