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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In this post I use the word “OOP” to mean programming in statically-typed language

So Smalltalk is not object-oriented. Someone tell Alan Kay.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OOP definitely doesn't get to claim static types for only itself either. Fuck that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

They don't only say static types. They add classes, inheritance, subtyping, and virtual calls. Mind you, the difference between the last 3 is quite subtle.

So, since I've started nit-picking, Self is also OO and has prototype-based inheritance (as does javascript, but I'm not sure I'd want to defend the claim that javascript is an OO language).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah let’s not forget the Common Lisp Object System (CLOS) which was more full-featured of an object-oriented language than most “current” languages.

The dynamism allowed both Smalltalk and CLOS to avoid a dark corner that will confound your typical OOP’er today - the circle/ellipse modeling problem; they allow an object to “become” a different type on its own accord. Take that, Java!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You down with OOP? 🤪