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[–] [email protected] 150 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Another day of being extremely thankful I decided not to learn JavaScript

[–] [email protected] 175 points 2 months ago

I mean, the people relying on such packages didn't learn it either.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Look at what you're missing!

Edit: also, is-odd depends on is-number

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

These are both made by the same person from this PR (who also made both the package the PR is on, and the is-number package that is being removed as a dep)

[–] JackbyDev 7 points 2 months ago

Heaven forbid they make a package is-even-or-odd with both. Wait. Don't give them ideas. They'll just make it depend on both.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This can happen in any project that uses dependencies, javascript or not

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but when was the last time you saw, say, a Python project using some third-party library instead of simply calling isnumeric() from the standard library?

There's a reason for these jokes always being about Javascript.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Python has other stupid problems related to pip. As much as stupid micro-dependencies suck in Javascript, they're not the shitshow managing dependencies in Python is. It's an inefficiency that never actually caused me noticeable issues in my former webdev life.

And let's not talk about C++... People reinvent all sorts of wheels all the time because sharing anything is so annoying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

And let’s not talk about C++…

Don't worry, people make plenty of jokes about C++ too.

Hell, people joke about my favourite language too - Cargo build times are a meme unto themselves.

I don't think there's a truly great dependency management system there. Though all in all, I've generally had no MAJOR issues with Cargo, Maven or Gradle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol just use a virtual environment, it's the default now anyways

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I know it is, and I find it to be a pretty ridiculously complex fix for a self-inflicted wound.

The disruption it's caused me outweighs by far any minor inconvenience with the multiplication or micro packages in the NodeJS world. There's that, and the Python 2 vs 3 shitshow from which the world still hasn't fully recovered from yet.

I mean it: Python has no business laughing at Javascript. Get your act together, snek 😜

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I only glossed over it… but this looks like it’s trying to check dynamic typing issues? It’s like a statically typed language with extra steps?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

I don't think typescript exists because JavaScript wasn't designed to be statically typed. I think Typescript exists because JavaScript wasn't really designed, period.