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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That is a lot of bile even for a rant. Agreed that it's nonsensical to blame the dev though. This is software, human error should not be enough to cause such massive damage. Real question is: what's wrong with the test suites? Did someone consciously decided the team would skimp on them?

As for blame, if we take the word of Crowdstrike's CEO then there is no individual negligence nor malice involved. Therefore this it is the company's responsibility as a whole, plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Real question is: what’s wrong with the test suites?

This is what I'm asking myself too. If they tested it, and they should have, then this massive error would not happen: a) controlled test suites and machines in their labors, b) at least one test machine connected through internet and acting like a customer, tested by real human, c) update in waves throughout the day. They can't tell me that they did all of these 3 steps. -meme

[–] Hector_McG 9 points 4 months ago

Therefore this it is the company’s responsibility as a whole.

The governance of the company as a whole is the CEO's responsibility. Thus a company-wide failure is 100% the CEO's fault.

If the CEO does not resign over this, the governance of the company will not change significantly, and it will happen again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I don't know snough about the crowdstrike stuff in particular to have much of an opinion on it in particular, but I will say that software devs/engineers have long skirted py without any of the accountability present n other engineering fields. If software engineers want to be called engineers, and they should, then this may be an excellnt opportunity to introduce acccountability associations and ethics requirements which prevent or reduce company systemic issues and empower se to enforce good practices.