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[–] [email protected] 248 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Get ready, if the Project 2025 freaks get their way this kind of shit will happen nationwide as a full ban on pornography across the board. It's just another way the party that claims they "stand for freedom" will turn this country into a puritanical dictatorship one small step at a time

[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 months ago (3 children)

First they came for the kinky porn, but I didn't speak out, because I didn't like kinky porn.

Then they came for hentai, and I didn't speak out, because I don't like hentai.

Then they came for the vanilla porn, but I didn't speak out, because I don't like normal porn.

Then, all that was left was yiff. And the furry porn stayed because AI cannot recognize furry porn, and it appears even on Google and Bing Safe Search.

And hundreds of millions of people started looking at the only porn left.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All we are going to have left is Al generated porn. Home grown ai porn.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Christian Church.....no! One must not teach our kids to d d d d....raw! And burn all books with pictures or photos. Because gad fore-bid they might be porn... Catho-licks.....yeah burn all the evid....books! One of them might contain a photo of a priest and a kid...we mean porn....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What's extra funny is that Islam bans drawing living things.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't Extreme Sunni sects ban the drawing of living things. For a Christian analogue that's like saying all Christians abhor any medical procedure that requires transferring blood, cannot drink alcohol, serve in the military, socialize with non Christians, or smoke tobacco.

Which I'm sure you know is patently ridiculous but there's 8 million self identified Christians who follow those rules. Surely they represent all of Christianity as much as Wahhabis represent all of Islam?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If the Bible itself prohibited such things, then yes, I would be making this point and also making fun of the Christians for not following it, like how they're not supposed to wear mixed fabric or have female teachers.

A ban on depicting living things is documented in a fairly well-supported ahadith. While strict adherence is rare in modernity, it is indeed something present in religious texts and widely practiced historically, which merits mockery.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A hadith is not the Bible. That's the Quran you're looking for. The entire point of hadiths is that they are not agreed on by all Muslims. Especially across lines of sects, ethnicity, and regions. The one you've chosen is only adhered to in Wahhabism. Otherwise known as the doomsday cult that spawned Al Qaeda.

Of course it's somewhere in history, that does not mean it's a current practice as you depicted. If we held entire religions to the history of a sect then buckle up because Christianity and Judaism have some barnstormers that are coming back. But of course you're willing to look past that. You understand Christianity isn't represented by the dicks holding signs at funerals. And yet you hold all of Islam hostage to it's worst people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know that hadith hold less weight than the Quran. That being said, there are several ahadith that say that painters will get screwed over by Allah that are considered canon by pretty much all Sunni Muslims. Many of them don't follow these rules, but I personally know several Muslims that drink. This does not change the fact that the actual written rules of the religion prohibit it.

You're also completely missing my original point. The guy I was originally replying to was joking that following Christian fundie logic will lead to a ban on images. I then drew parallels between the Christian and Muslim extremists who are both trying to institute their respective religious laws as the laws of countries, hate each other furiously, consider themselves the exact opposites of each other, and yet seem to converge on a number of issues.

P.S. I am pretty sure that Shi'ites have no equivalent rule regarding aniconism. I know very little about Shia Islam in general so I won't comment on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

See, one word there would completely change your statement above. Extremist.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does this mean can draw the prophet Mohammed since he is dead? Finally a loophole.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if you draw him as a corpse ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, the other really big religion has a zombie as its mascot so it isn't without precedent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The mascot was the process of becoming zombie - they worship the process

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Next up, social credit. Welcome to Republikkkan Amerika.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I am thinking the next thing they go after is the 2A. Might sound crazy, but I can see the SCOTUS deciding to enforce the “Well Regulated” part.

Except it will only be registered republicans who can be considered part of the “well regulated”, and they will add some measures in there that if someone is registered to a party affiliation they automatically vote straight ticket and cannot change it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

While the courts have liberalized a lot of gun regulations recently, they have simultaneously been ruling in the favor of police treating people suspected, or known, to have a gun as a dangerous, immediate threat, and have allowed them to do things that basically signal to cops that gun = enemy = loss of rights. So, sure you can buy, and carry, guns more easily, but the cops are allowed to pretty much disregard your rights if you do.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

"Only the National Guard is well regulated."

"Only white men can join the National Guard."

Done

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Putting this out there.

If you are educated, in demand or have the financial means to do so GET OUT. Globalization means most jobs can be worked anywhere and those that can't are often in demand.

My uni is struggling with student numbers and I still don't understand why we aren't advertising to every single American high-school. One mass shooting in living memory, mostly understanding culture in regards to LGBT, low religious control, low corruption and great views 15 minutes away.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Wait. Is the world going to have to deal with a flood of American immigrants now? That's going to be delicious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The good thing is that immigration is meant to be selective- we can pick and choose.

I feel like Mexico may need to put up a border wall shortly.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to be overly offensive, but as someone who has watched the US slowly turn to chum over the decades, I'm not in favour of a mass immigration of Americans to other Western countries. How about you just stay at home and fix things. Most western countries don't experience the same sort of weird and dangerous political problems that are now your way of life.

Just copy what others do. Dump guns as a social artifact, tone down the worst aspects of capitalism, perhaps compulsory voting, adopt a fairer taxation system, and strengthen social security. All other western countries do this to a smaller or greater extent and none of us are perfect or have any less problems in other areas.

I'm definitely not saying that other countries are better, we are not. It's just that you definitely have particular problems and if you can't change them, you better just build that wall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah, fuck this place. I would love to see westernized countries just flat out say “doctors, engineers, lawyers, medical professionals, successful business people, etc., come move here. We will fast track you all and even buy your house in the USA from you at market price”

Then watch as the brain drain kills the USA, and the bitch ass rural banjo players can live out their dreams. Of course life expectancy will drop to 32 years old as they all die of preventable disease. But who cares? Bootstraps! Jesus!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's the dream, maybe. But other Western countries already have a professional class. We already have doctors etc. And, Australia already has niche immigration, but we can't afford to just throw open the doors. No, you guys need to just learn to sink or swim. Or, just vote. 40 million Americans didn't bother last time. You let the hicks and boobs just steal the country from under your feet.

No need for drastic action, just a will to change.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most are too poor to get out. I looked I to it and no one wants you unless your rich or moving to a shit hole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Every time this discussion comes around, I remember a scene from The Day After Tomorrow that makes me laugh very loud, that is Americans ilegally crossing the border to Mexico and then the Mexico pres having pity of the US and admitting the immigrants in exchange for the US forgiving the entire national debt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

But we all know educated and/or wealthy immigrants are welcome almost everywhere. Wealthy, at least; Educated is much more complicated...

We have the distinct disadvantage of absurdly expensive education, which means decades to waste here before debts are paid. Also insanely expensive insurance, so don't get seriously ill or have any kind of accidents (that'll cost you either way). Rent? (That's tripled, fuck you.) Have your parents died and left you money? (JFC they're still alive and poorly spent their savings on garbage and Trump scams? Game over.)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"only one mass shooting recently" 🙃

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

In living memory.

I can't guarantee America has had less than 2 in the last 48 hours.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The US has 55 times as many people living in 36 times as much land and with nearly no restrictions on firearm ownership in the majority of the country. Recipe for a fuckload of mass shootings

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It really is.

I do hope you aren't excusing it, but by that logic NZ should have a mass shooting roughly every 4 months by comparison.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

You don't excuse a disease, you analyze why it's happening and figure out how to cure it. Understanding the scale of the host is step one. Understanding what other hosts are doing differently, the extent to which it's working for them, and what effect you could hope to see by mimicking them is step two. In the US, actually implementing any improvement requires relatively broad understanding of what exactly is wrong, how to fix it, and how we know the fix will work without also costing so many people their "freedom" to own a ridiculously efficient killing machine that the improvement doesn't get shot down. That's step 3

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In living memory, he’s likely australian.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

New Zealand going by the username.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NZ does import its mass shooters from Australia. So that works

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't New Zealand actually the hardest country to immigrate to?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you have no skills its an absolute bitch. Unless you're coming over as a seasonal worker in which they will take nearly anyone.

If you have them, money or a student its much easier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'm guessing seasonal workers aren't welcome to stay though... leaving money or academics. I will say Americans are slowly realizing it's cheaper to send their kids abroad for college. Germany told parents they had to put up a 10,000 dollar bond to support their kid in Germany and parents were like, "Yup, that's a quarter the cost of the tuition alone in the US."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I looked into immigrating to NZ before they changed the immigration rules a couple years ago but couldn't find a job that matched that was hiring foreigners. I would be happy to move there and continue working my current job remotely, but it didn't look like that was an option.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Its much like turning their seasonal "cheap labor" into "illegals", once you make it so they cannot report you, then these monsters feel emboldened to exploit them. It also probably doesn't make much difference to a lot of these monsters as they are interested in girls (not women) to young to legally do porn to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

What's even worse is they're doing it to ban anything they label porn, aka anything they label "obscene". Those penalties they list are to imprison their ideological enemies: anyone not straight or "Christian".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Get ready

Get out the vote. Trump, despite his polling, is deeply unpopular with the average American. The problem isn't the people voting for Trump, its the people who aren't voting in general. In 2020, 40 million registered Dems did not vote. Round up every friend and family member, get them registered, get them voting. Go as a group on election, bring snacks and drinks for everyone. Offer a ride or share a cab.

Trump is extremely beatable. They know this, and it's why they're panicking right now. Project 2025 isn't just beatable, it's an albatross; that's why the GOP are pretending they had nothing to do with it, but that leaves them unable to actually articulate any policy positions because it is their policy position.

Why be preparing for failure when you could be planning to win?