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Cloudflare took down our website after trying to force us to pay 120k$ within 24h (robindev.substack.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/devops

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Always call out Cloudflare for their bullshit. For those working for companies in devops, share this with your teams...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm on CFs side. These guys should've known better and 120k from a casino is a drop in a very large bucket.

[–] FizzyOrange 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Should've known better than to what? Use Cloudflare?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To use a service tier that they've clearly exceeded for quite some time and then act surprised when they're asked to upgrade. Then to make matters worse they try to play hard ball by mentioning that they're already talking to other providers. I'm sure the casino this is all for is way more lenient and let's it's customers play games or make bets they haven't paid for.

[–] FizzyOrange 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

try to play hard ball by mentioning that they’re already talking to other providers

It's not "playing hard ball" to mention that you are look at other options. Jesus. As the author said, of course they would be. Wouldn't you if you were facing a 40x price increase?

To use a service tier that they’ve clearly exceeded for quite some time and then act surprised when they’re asked to upgrade.

We must have read totally different posts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Now admittedly, $250 is probably fairly low for the amount of traffic we were pushing through Cloudflare. We mainly use CF for the CDN (caching all our static content) and DDOS protection, for which it works pretty well. It’s easy to use and you don’t usually have to think about it much.

Nope. Same article. You're crazy if you think you can average 7mil visitors a month and stick to the $250/mo plan. It blows my mind that a casino of all things is mad about that and we've got people like you so desperate to shit on cloudflare that you can't see how ridiculous that is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the "Business" plan advertised as "unlimited"? Also the problem was a totally different one. They were pressured into upgrading to the "Enterprise" plan without being given any reason. I would be on CF's side if they just said: "With your current plan you are violating TOS. Here's what you did wrong: Lists ToS violations The features you need in order to fix this are only included in the Enterprise plan, so please upgrade or we have to terminate your services, we give you 1 week"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I misunderstood before and I agree.

[–] FizzyOrange 1 points 7 months ago

You've misunderstood the issues completely. They had no issue with paying more. The issue is with the extortion of demanding they pay for 12 months up front, the 40x increase (7 million visits a month is 3 visits per second on average; not huge - definitely doesn't cost $10k/month), the terrible communication, and the retaliatory shutdown of their account. If you can't see the issue with any of those I'm not sure what's wrong with you.

Consider how Cloudflare should have handled this:

Instead of connecting them to sales repeatedly, connect them to a technical team who could explain the actual issue.
Let them pay monthly (honestly based on the emails from them it sounds like there actually is a monthly option; they just were trying to strongarm them into paying for a year).
Have less insane pricing.
Give them proper warning before shutting their site down. Not "your site may be closed", but "we will close your site on XXX".

Cloudflare are the clear villains here, assuming none of this is an outright fabrication, which seems unlikely based on the similar experiences of other people. You desperately grasping at the fact that its a casino to swing the moral balance is hilarious. Why do you want to defend Cloudflare so much? Do you have shares in them or something? (Pretty sure I do.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This should have known better than to checks notes believe what they were told